Henao at the Giro

[Winterfold]

Team Sky directeur sportif Nicolas Portal is the link between the Colombians and the English speaking part of the team as he speaks fluent Spanish after his four seasons riding for Caisse d'Epargne (2006-2009). "Sergio impressed me at the Vuelta al Pais Vasco when he attacked on the big ring up to Ibardin, where only Samuel Sanchez and Rodriguez passed him," the Frenchman told Cyclingnews. "Here at the Giro, we got him to gain confidence by getting involved in the early minutes of the lead-out for Mark Cavendish."

As the Sky 'dont know what they are doing' point has been reiterated to the point of boredom by some of our more vociferous armchair DS's I thought this was worth repeating.

And it would appear the pulls are being repaid. Must be nice to be that age and have the rainbow jersey do some work for you, even if its just a few km.

Henao will be coming back to win next year methinks...

 

[will10]

Even a token pull means that there's a reason to display support.

yes, the reason being to get mentioned on various fora

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

As the Sky 'dont know what they are doing' point has been reiterated to the point of boredom by some of our more vociferous armchair DS's I thought this was worth repeating.

And it would appear the pulls are being repaid. Must be nice to be that age and have the rainbow jersey do some work for you, even if its just a few km.

Henao will be coming back to win next year methinks...

lol. you actually believe that s***. henao is the last rider who needs to grow confidence. when he was 17 he already said he would become the first colombian tourwinner.

 

[greenedge]

It would be nice to see if Henao could also do the Vuelta ( get a stage win/ help Froome secure a 2nd place ).

 

[Gloin22]

Seems like everything says turn opposite

Rujano to win Giro - Well doubtful

Henao to Top 5 - Well doubtful now

Glad Uran is doing well, at the beginning of the race I though Uran would do better than Henao here so happy to see him perform

 

[hrotha]

Well, as I have ALWAYS said, you have to take it easy with Henao, since it's his first GT and you never know how he's going to handle it. This being his debut, whatever comes will be good.

*cough* *cough*

 

[Gloin22]

Ryo, this as a side note. Don't jinx Uran now saying he'll do podium. If you do he might not even finish the race by this rate ( JK )

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Seems like everything says turn opposite

Rujano to win Giro - Well doubtful

Henao to Top 5 - Well doubtful now

Glad Uran is doing well, at the beginning of the race I though Uran would do better than Henao here so happy to see him perform

Another one bites the dust thing eyh?

 

[profff]

well, henao is still in place 10 in gc and second in U23 ranking in his first GT ,3 week, world tour level.
he is just 4 seconds down the very famous de gendt which is followed by a lot of forum people as a very promising rider.
the second best rider doing is first 3 weel gt at wt level is brambilla , that is 2 minutes away from henao.

probably today he had a bad day, like rigo had on sunday- let see what sergio will di in the last 3 stages , then we will judge.

 

[Escarabajo]

As was previously said, Henao limited his losses today. I guess third week weakness for his first GT is expected.

Now I am little surprise Uran is in fith with a chance for the podium. I guess he has more kilometers and experience than Henao. So far he has done everything he had too. He looked to be saving some energy during the first two weeks (apart from pulling for Cav).

 

[gustavoduncan]

the problem is not the third week. he needs to lose weight and improve their long climb skills.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

As was previously said, Henao limited his losses today. I guess third week weakness for his first GT is expected.

Now I am little surprise Uran is in fith with a chance for the podium. I guess he has more kilometers and experience than Henao. So far he has done everything he had too. He looked to be saving some energy during the first two weeks (apart from pulling for Cav).

lol again you are clueless. henao doesn't suffer in the final week. as I said he can really blow in steep climbs because of his heavy gears. he always dropped in his last year in colombia in steep climbs

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

well, henao is still in place 10 in gc and second in U23 ranking in his first GT ,3 week, world tour level.
he is just 4 seconds down the very famous de gendt which is followed by a lot of forum people as a very promising rider.
the second best rider doing is first 3 weel gt at wt level is brambilla , that is 2 minutes away from henao.

probably today he had a bad day, like rigo had on sunday- let see what sergio will di in the last 3 stages , then we will judge.

brambilla is in his 2nd giro

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

So Ryo, what do you think, will Henao lose even more time on the Alpe di Pampeago stage? It's another steep climb.....

Hoping he'll be there on the Stelvio though.

 

[hfer07]

they way I see his current situation - I believe he'll be fine for the final battles, SINCE TODAY WAS HIS BAD DAY-therefore he would be able to recover properly & work his way up in the GC.

It ain't over yet

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

So Ryo, what do you think, will Henao lose even more time on the Alpe di Pampeago stage? It's another steep climb.....

Hoping he'll be there on the Stelvio though.

henao doesn't have bad days. he's incredubly consistant but he can blow on steep climbs. pampeago will/can be same thing. for the future I see it more positive though. they are working on his weight and hopefully also his heavy gears

 

[Escarabajo]

lol again you are clueless. henao doesn't suffer in the final week. as I said he can really blow in steep climbs because of his heavy gears. he always dropped in his last year in colombia in steep climbs

How do you equate what you said with a result in third week in the Giro since it is the first one in his life?

How do you know when or when not he will explode??? Do you have a Crystal Ball?

I see you can say bad and good predictions sometimes and you know the outcome has to be either one, so then you will come back to tell us all that "You said so".

Me, I have no idea how he will do in the remaining stages. I only go with his consistency in the past. That's all. I don't make specific predictions with high confidence level because it is very difficult to do, especially with a new cyclist in the Giro.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

name me even one colombian that isn't recuperating great. even sprinters like duque are the best in the third week. uran in his first tour at age 22 was the best in the final tour week. henao is same thing

 

[Escarabajo]

Uran has suffered in the third week in the past if i recall alright.

Other times he has been working for other riders, in some cases because he had already lost time due to crashes or illness.

If other Colombian riders were recuperating good for the third week of the Tour they should have been making top ten's long time ago. I don't see that happening. Apart from crashes i don't see that happening. Duque is a bad example. He is not even a GT contender.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

how is that a bad example. he climbs the best in the third week. just look up his results. uran has only faded in a third week when he either crashed or was sick. not so in the tour 2009 when he was 22. and same thing now in the giro.

 

[Escarabajo]

IMHO, being sick is part of the game. Crashes are a different thing. With illnesses you never know unless you are his friend or wife next to him. Riders once they go bad they love or they have to find excuses. They have a compromise with the sponsors to perform well and cannot accept not being good enough or not well prepared as the simple excuses. You can also make the argument that a rider got sick because he was not well prepared. There is a probably a correlation.

As for Duque, what do I care about a guy who losses so many minutes in the mountains in the first 2 weeks and then recuperates very well for the third week. That is a moot point to me. It does not make any sense to take him into account.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

name me even one colombian that isn't recuperating great. even sprinters like duque are the best in the third week. uran in his first tour at age 22 was the best in the final tour week. henao is same thing

man your posts are just speculation, hope and excuses.

Escarabajo is right, injuries/sickness/etc are part of the game, when a rider like gesink sucumbs to this you are not so keen to overlook this. Fact is rujano is far from a complete rider, hence why he will always struggle to win a giro (remember last week you told me to come talk to you in a week... well?)

As for Henao, you make statements like you know for certain, despite what you say this isn't the same thing as colombia, and it is his first GT. Henao is still an unknown quantity in many regards, stop trying to justify the short-comings. It's his first GT and by no means is it a bad performance (opposite actually), but like all young riders he is still improving and learning. No one, not even you know what one is truly capable of.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

yeah I know a lot more about him than you. he simply suffers in steep climbs. look only at his gears and build. same happened in colombia. where climbing is even harder. gesink always crashes I never say he has bad recuperation

 

[Von Mises]

how is that a bad example. he climbs the best in the third week. just look up his results. uran has only faded in a third week when he either crashed or was sick. not so in the tour 2009 when he was 22. and same thing now in the giro.

Uran actually faded during last days of 2011 Tour. And illness, well, you have to be strong, to be resistant to illnesses - it is part of recuperation, part of talent.

 

[Gloin22]

Uran actually faded during last days of 2011 Tour. And illness, well, you have to be strong, to be resistant to illnesses - it is part of recuperation, part of talent.

No, seriously I don't agree with this at all. If you get ill - you get ill. Nothing you can do. Many riders get ill and can't do anything about it.