Stani Kléber said:
Are you not being a bit aggressive Thoughtforfood?
No, he is not, not even a wee bit, after I read the iReal Pro rider posts.
Is he a real rider? Maybe, but being a pro rider doesn't gives him the right to judge us as loosers, because we are not being foolished about pro riders. Real riders was Riis, Zabel, Festina gang, Vino, Millar ,Frigo, Basso, Landis, Hammilton, Pantani & Chava Jimenez(both of them R.I.P.) ,Heras etc....Very "Real" riders.
It was no other than Virenque who may think ,we, the fans were loosers and there are a lots of 'Virenques' in the peloton ,I'm talking about lots of uncaught 'Virenques' and more, they are not only in the peloton but in all sports.
Somebody may be very naive to think the doping phenomenon is specific only to cycling. The way was unfolded ,all the fuzz, after there was nominated sports/(men) other than cycling ,like footbal and tenis,in Operacion Puerto, tells a lot about drugs and sport and money and politics. Behind the riders ego and their desires to win with all costs, stands lots, lots of money, entertaiment media, politics, companies interests, sponsor faults( because they pretend to know nothing) and last but not least the sport authorities including UCI ASO etc... It is not simply conspiracy teories and you don't have to be REAL rider or any other REAL athlete to put one and one together and have a conclusion.
PS If Thoughtforfood is a looser, I am happy to consider myself a looser too.!