Hour Record Rules Revisted/Revised

[avanti]

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High humidity (90 -99) is not faster................... .

However humid air is less dense than dry air for a given temperature.

 

[TShame]

Let's avoid the ridiculous speculation of one rider in a frigid velodrome, one riding on a velodrome with high winds, and one in a velodrome/sauna.

Contain the discussion to past attempts and future ones. Discuss wattage, VO2, training methods, pace, venue, and altitude. I will even discuss how far Fosterman can go in an hour with a 60 x 11 gear if we have to.

Here's what I'll be riding.

 

[mektronic]

Contain the discussion to past attempts and future ones. Discuss wattage, VO2, training methods, pace, venue, and altitude.

"Yes sir"

 

[Captain Serious]

Here's what I'll be riding.

This is heaps cooler. Who needs a skin suit?

 

[TShame]

Here is something to consider. I haven't studied this fully yet. But it shows about 1.8 km better for men and 1.5 for women. These altitude venues were outdoors. So, an indoor velodrome would yield a higher reward. As was stated before, there are gains from altitude and their are losses for the rider. Some don't perform well at altitude, or perhaps are not prepared for an attempt at altitude.

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Contain the discussion to past attempts and future ones. Discuss wattage, VO2, training methods, pace, venue, and altitude

This thread is meant to be about the rules and regulations of the event. There's already another thread for discussing hour record attempts:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=24672

 

[Le breton]

Thx Al, for info and quick reply. Any benefit in rolling resistance with wet road? This sounds like an 'old wives tale".

Thx, Le Breton, for your comments. I respect your input/experience as I feel you are even older than I am. 56yr

You are right, looking back I now know for sure I was young when I was 56

as it was the last year of my life in which I managed to reach/keep my optimal heart rate over 7 passes in the Dolomites during as many hours of racing

 

[TShame]

How come there are hour trolls here but no hour groupies?

On a positive note, here's a shot of Molly's hour.

 

[Shame]

Gustav Larsson set a distance of 50.016 kilometers in his World Hour Record attempt

When was this even annouced?
The article says he fell short. Fell short? It wasn't even close unless his first 20 minutes were at 53. I haven't seen his attempt schedule yet. I'm disappointed we didn't have notice here. But, as I would have predicted, he fell painfully short. It sounds like it was poorly planned. At least this effort might teach him where he needs to be in order to go 3 kilometers faster/further. Understanding his current wattage will help him see where it needs to be at to break the record. But still, Larsson? I wouldn't have expected that.

 

[Shame]

Alex Dowsett is hoping to make his attempt at the UCI Hour Record in late April after his initial plans were postponed by a training crash that resulted in a broken collarbone. He said his goal is 52.6 or 17.1 per lap. He's trying not to overpace. Sounds really tight. Could be fun to watch.

 

[avanti]

................. I'm disappointed we didn't have notice here. ...................

It waas - http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/larsson-tackling-world-hour-record-eight-months-after-third-spinal-fracture. I agree it was not prominently displayed.

After that notice I followed the attempt on twitter at the Revolution website.

 

[Shame]

Haven't seen any times at all. I heard he planned to start at 52.4 and then finish faster. He said he knew he didn't have it from the start. But, it seems hard to believe that he could have tested at 53, then ran only 50 on race day. Kudos for not bailing out at the halfway point. This is the second attempt that UCI said they would show but didn't. Although, this effort sounds like it was thrown together last minute.

 

[Shame]

Finally, some validation to my comments. I found an article that said that Gustav was about a kilometer down at the half-way point. From his split times, it is obvious he was failing fast, maybe in the first ten minutes. A great workout none-the-less.

 

[Shame]

Recently read Rohan's effort was at 500m altitude. This was calculated as a .4 to .5 additional distance. So, his effort was calculated at 52 k at sea level.

These high levels are a feat. I read of a master's attempt, which finished just over 48 k. (National record, but possibly not UCI certified). 48 seems to be all of the masters from 30-59. (with one noticeable result excluded for obvious reasons- here unstated).

While I won't expand on my personal efforts in this thread, I did my first hour effort in several years (mainly because I'm more of a kilo and pursuit rider). I purposely geared high and kept my efforts 1 km below my current level. I simply worked on pacing and made it a training effort. Finished strong. Still very sore today. Thanks for the motivation everyone. #thehourishell

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

These high levels are a feat. I read of a master's attempt, which finished just over 48 k. (National record, but possibly not UCI certified). 48 seems to be all of the masters from 30-59.

I've coached three of the current records.

 

[Shame]

Polish rider attempt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KHUmrjaVKCk

Australian Masters attempt

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/02/p...d-in-perspective-how-does-an-amateur-compare/

I've coached three of the current records.

What specific training did they do in preparation? (even though I'm built for 1-3 K.)

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

What specific training did they do in preparation? (even though I'm built for 1-3 K.)

It was different for each, but in terms of the most specific work - that involved many sessions of longer threshold level efforts at the track, practising race like conditions. Pacing practice etc. Aerodynamics refinement as well. Lot of time spent on that. There are many subtleties involved with improving performance of long track efforts and these vary by individual.

As for training in general, the conditioning work is no different than that to prepare an individual for a longer ITT. With individualisation built into their training of course. But lots of track prep is very important to maximise individual potential.

 

[Shame]

Here comes Dowsett again on May 2.

I hope Cancellara thinks about his opportunity. If you can't road race, train for the track.

 

[Shame]

Dowsett May 2

Wiggins June 7

Hooray!

 

[oldcrank]

If Alex beats Rohan's record I think there
will be a fair amount of interest in how
fast Sir Brad rides the 10 mile TT on the
fast V718 course on May 16 because the
current British 10 record is also Alex's.

Rightly or wrongly, many (including me )
will try to make some extrapolation from
their respective 10 mile times to what Sir
Brad might achieve in his Hour.

 

[blackcat]

If Alex beats Rohan's record I think there
will be a fair amount of interest in how
fast Sir Brad rides the 10 mile TT on the
fast V718 course on May 16 because the
current British 10 record is also Alex's.

Rightly or wrongly, many (including me )
will try to make some extrapolation from
their respective 10 mile times to what Sir
Brad might achieve in his Hour.

brad will knock it out of the park, p'raps phinney might take a look at it in the future

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Head to head ITT results for Dennis and Wiggins in 2014 include Tour of California and World Championships.

TOC 2014:
Stage 2
Monday, May 12 2014
20.1km Folsom (ITT)
1 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Team Sky 23:18:27
2 Rohan Dennis (Aus) Garmin Sharp +0:00:44

UCI World Road Championships 2014
24 September 2014
Ponferrada Spain, 47.10km
1 United Kingdom Bradley Wiggins (GBR) 56' 25.52"
5 Australia Rohan Dennis (AUS) + 57.74"

 

[Shame]

I notice Alex D is riding a converted time trial bike and not the aluminum track frame that Canyon produces. That means Wiggins will be the first hour attempt on a track bike. I saw Alex did a five hour ride the other day. I personally don't feel that kind of training helps, although it does refresh the mind.

 

[twothirds]

Bobridge rode a track bike, Dennis rode a track bike.

 

[Shame]

Converted to track bike. A one-off is not the same. even though the main difference is just to make the rear narrow enough for a track hub. There are a lot of companies that do not have a top of the line track frame. They usually invest their money into triathlon and time trial frames. There are only a few big names in track cycling: Look, Felt, Cervelo, Pina.

It isn't that big of a deal to me.

I heard Ben King would love to go for the American record, as would Phinney.