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How can Contador lose?

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Contador cooked his team today and made no gains on Shrek. Looking good for Saxo going forward as they didn't turn guys inside out to protect the jersey.

Saxo has no one in the mountains anyway at this point, whether rested or not. Contador, at the minimum has Vino and Navarro. Additionally, the tempo that Astana was riding likely cooked more than just themselves. I would think the Saxo boys felt a bit of the fire themselves, that would explain AS having to go back to the team car himself for his fuel and hydration.
 
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Saxo has no one in the mountains anyway at this point, whether rested or not. Contador, at the minimum has Vino and Navarro. Additionally, the tempo that Astana was riding likely cooked more than just themselves. I would think the Saxo boys felt a bit of the fire themselves, that would explain AS having to go back to the team car himself for his fuel and hydration.

You can hope all this plays out as you post. I disagree with your prognostics. If Astana can keep putting that sort of firepower up there, than the ghost of Bruyneel hangs heavily over camp Astana.
 
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You can hope all this plays out as you post. I disagree with your prognostics. If Astana can keep putting that sort of firepower up there, than the ghost of Bruyneel hangs heavily over camp Astana.

Translated: When things no longer go your way play the "Their effort belongs in a clinic discussion" card.
 
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Contador cooked his team today and made no gains on Shrek. Looking good for Saxo going forward as they didn't turn guys inside out to protect the jersey.

Yeah... El Pistolero should be careful... He needs the team for furthers attacks and selections... but I still think that Astana is the team who had the better preparation for this tour... they are showing it...
 
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Translated: When things no longer go your way play the "Their effort belongs in a clinic discussion" card.
If you believe they can do that sort of stuff, stage after stage, than there is no need to bog one another down in realistic discussion. It's amazing Vino ever bothered with sauce, with that sort of prowess.
 
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...and perhaps you can't see past your Livestrong tinted lenses to see that Astana's domestiques have proven virtually every pundit wrong. The smiley face after the last sentence I'm guessing implies that it was a joke because if it was meant to be serious you have my sympathies for your obvious shortcomings.;) If you were serious, what would be the point of the Astana domestiques "maximizing their GC placing" when their goal is to win the Tour for Contador?

Those Astana climbers sure proved the pundits wrong today as they took up strategic position behind the sprinters on the autobus. Isn't that typical for the strongest team's climbers to roll like that? Albertoe's braintrust must have some serious strategery in the works.
 
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Those Astana climbers sure proved the pundits wrong today as they took up strategic position behind the sprinters on the autobus. Isn't that typical for the strongest team's climbers to roll like that? Albertoe's braintrust must have some serious strategery in the works.

You didn't watch the stage today, did you? Either that or you can't even read the stage results.

Vino, Navarro, Tiralongo, and DDFuente all finished at LEAST 15 minutes ahead of the autobus. These are the people who are assigned to pace Contador on the key climbs.

Admit it. You didn't even see the stage. Surely you can't be this clueless.
 
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Those Astana climbers sure proved the pundits wrong today as they took up strategic position behind the sprinters on the autobus. Isn't that typical for the strongest team's climbers to roll like that? Albertoe's braintrust must have some serious strategery in the works.

You don't have a faking idea, do yo? you don't even bother to see the stage and read the results... Astana marked the pace almost all the stage, in the climbs they were the only team who put their domestiques to work chasing the breakaway, etc... even in the last climb Dani and Vino were still with AC...

pffff watch the stage then come here and post something inteligent here you ***...
 
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Those Astana climbers sure proved the pundits wrong today as they took up strategic position behind the sprinters on the autobus. Isn't that typical for the strongest team's climbers to roll like that? Albertoe's braintrust must have some serious strategery in the works.
astana tore the peloton apart before some of them finally slid off the front. not sure which race you were watching
 
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Saxo has no one in the mountains anyway at this point, whether rested or not. Contador, at the minimum has Vino and Navarro. Additionally, the tempo that Astana was riding likely cooked more than just themselves. I would think the Saxo boys felt a bit of the fire themselves, that would explain AS having to go back to the team car himself for his fuel and hydration.

Actually, I think he had a team mate with him in that group when he dropped back, making it even stranger.
 
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Contador cooked his team today and made no gains on Shrek. Looking good for Saxo going forward as they didn't turn guys inside out to protect the jersey.

+1 on this. Astana tried the same thing a week ago; same result-- AC couldn't drop AS. Then, Saxo counter-punched the next day. Might see the same thing tomorrow. To me the most interesting thing today was the standoff when AC and AS were testing each other over who was going to chase Menchov. Let's say Menchov or Gesink, or even Sanchez hits out earlier tomorrow--who's going to blink first and chase? Fascinating stuff, I think.
 
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Perhaps Astana's climbers were cooked and weren't saving any NRG because they had already used it. Or maybe it was because Alberto is an egomaniac who grinds his team into the ground rather than letting them maximize their GC placing :)

ok got it.............you know squat about bike racing.........check
 
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You can hope all this plays out as you post. I disagree with your prognostics. If Astana can keep putting that sort of firepower up there, than the ghost of Bruyneel hangs heavily over camp Astana.

it really is all about lance for you isnt it.................my, what are you going to do next year, as in august 2010, you wont have much to cheer for ,the shack wont be at the vuelta,, no TO GER, and really what can you expect from them in the remaining classics, well maybe tiago can get a result and you will feel better