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Hi,

I know that it is not the most correct topic. But I would like to know how to doping.

Can someone tell what we can do to upgrade or performance? Options and how to do.
 
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caça-foice said:
Hi,

I know that it is not the most correct topic. But I would like to know how to doping.

Can someone tell what we can do to upgrade or performance? Options and how to do.
If nobody has taken you aside to show you what to do, it means you just don't have the potential to be any good with or without the dope. Ride hard, have fun, and find another career.
 

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ca&#231 said:
come on people.... this is cycling... Always the same "correct" answers. Let's stop being hypocrites and talk openly about it.

To be quite honest pedealing his answer is not a "correct" answer, it is a correct answer. If a trainer or a DS has not shown you what to do, nthey probably do not believe that you would make it as a professional rider, or think that you could make it clean (hah, fat luck on the latter :p).

But otherwise, just go to some Chinese site and just order some things, or find a doctor who you know does not have any ethical qualms, nor any fear of legal repercussions, or just go to a gym. But don't expect getting anything good, and probably f'ing up you live and health
 
I've forwarded this thread to Pat McQuaid, and expect him to act swiftly with a 2 year ban. After all, if Basso could get suspended for 2 years for just 'attempted' doping, surely this thread should count as enough evidence for that! Sorry caca-foice, nothing personal, I'm just a bit of a witch hunter on a vendetta.
 
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caça-foice said:
Hi,

I know that it is not the most correct topic. But I would like to know how to doping.

Can someone tell what we can do to upgrade or performance? Options and how to do.

Why don´t you go to the favelas near your hometown. Buy some cocain, there should be plenty of options. It should help you, it helped the riders in the 1930s (or they think it helped :rolleyes:)
 
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Probably the safest thing to do is find a doctor who specializes in hormone replacement therapy. He can get you on HGH and testosterone legally, based on a diagnosis of low natural levels. I doubt you will get a TUE though, unless maybe you are 70 years old. There was an outside magazine article a few years back. The author went to a doctor and was on roids, HGH, and testosterone and EPO in no time flat. Here you go:

http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/11/drugs-a-cautionary-tale/

From that article it seems that unscrupulous doctors are a big part of the problem.

Now don't go killing yourself bud!
 
caça-foice said:
Hi,

I know that it is not the most correct topic. But I would like to know how to doping.

Can someone tell what we can do to upgrade or performance? Options and how to do.

My guess is you approach your training the same way you approach doping. Put some effort in man, get on the web and search Chinese Clenbuterol, Chinese EPO and Chinese Testo and HGH. Make sure you have a genuine Chinese site and not one with an American middle man cause we would rat out granny to avoid prison time. Good luck man, really!
 
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There must be some psychological phenomenon to explain the behavior of the fans of cycling in relation to doping.
Most agree that professional athletes use doping. But everyone is horrified when someone tries to talk openly about HOW to do, especially in the real world.

Obviously the easiest way is to look at the list of substances banned by the UCI. After verifying the effect of each one and how is your dosage and side effects.
 

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caça-foice said:
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I know that it is not the most correct topic. But I would like to know how to doping.

Can someone tell what we can do to upgrade or performance? Options and how to do.

This is almost biblically...........









comical. You really should just juice and go to the gym if you want the attention. Then anywhere you go you get it. You don't have to go to the touble of riding a bike for long hours and wearing lycra.
More bang for the buck if you have big muscles.
 
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There must be some psychological phenomenon to explain the behavior of the fans of cycling in relation to doping.
Most agree that professional athletes use doping. But everyone is horrified when someone tries to talk openly about HOW to do, especially in the real world.

Obviously the easiest way is to look at the list of substances banned by the UCI. After verifying the effect of each one and how is your dosage and side effects.
Not me. I'm not horrified. Not when I see the effects of legal substances like alcohol in our society. I don't want to see you get sick but if you do, it's your own fault and I wouldn't lose any sleep. And cheating? Well doping is only one form of cheating. I just don't want you to waste your money because I believe that if you were good enough to make doping worth your sacrifices you would already have a mentor in place. Save your time and money. But if you do take that road, maybe do a little more research than just how much to take of substances X, Y, and Z on the banned product list. Some substances are like wives and girlfriends, they should never meet.
 
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Probably the safest thing to do is find a doctor who specializes in hormone replacement therapy. He can get you on HGH and testosterone legally, based on a diagnosis of low natural levels. I doubt you will get a TUE though, unless maybe you are 70 years old. There was an outside magazine article a few years back. The author went to a doctor and was on roids, HGH, and testosterone and EPO in no time flat. Here you go:

http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/11/drugs-a-cautionary-tale/

From that article it seems that unscrupulous doctors are a big part of the problem.

Now don't go killing yourself bud!

I read this article some time ago. Good read.

There must be many kinds of doping. One for each situation. That's what I like to discuss. When it comes to doping the people think immediately in the extreme case where you will only stop when you die. like using cocaine or heroin.

Calm down people. Nobody wants to be looking like an extra terrestrial.

I believe there are safe levels of use of certain substances which, by careful you may be able to increase the good effect by reducing the negative effect. Also, there should be combinations of remedies, avoiding the side effects.

I do not want to die with the perfect body. It will not serve for anything. It's like smokers or people who drink alcohol. It hurts, but in a controlled way, you can live a good time with it.
 
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This is almost biblically...........









comical. You really should just juice and go to the gym if you want the attention. Then anywhere you go you get it. You don't have to go to the touble of riding a bike for long hours and wearing lycra.
More bang for the buck if you have big muscles.

This point is interesting. There are hundreds of forums about bodybuilding. Where they discuss cycles of use of various substances. Why don't there is that in cycling? the sport that there should be more people using doping.
 
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Not me. I'm not horrified. Not when I see the effects of legal substances like alcohol in our society. I don't want to see you get sick but if you do, it's your own fault and I wouldn't lose any sleep. And cheating? Well doping is only one form of cheating. I just don't want you to waste your money because I believe that if you were good enough to make doping worth your sacrifices you would already have a mentor in place. Save your time and money. But if you do take that road, maybe do a little more research than just how much to take of substances X, Y, and Z on the banned product list. Some substances are like wives and girlfriends, they should never meet.

Some people here ("pros" in my country) have told me how they do. But I do not trust in their knowledge. I believe they do not know what are doing. But it is extremely difficult to see any discussion about this in the cycling world.

But to speculate about how AC or Armstrong may have used doping, all love.
 
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This point is interesting. There are hundreds of forums about bodybuilding. Where they discuss cycles of use of various substances. Why don't there is that in cycling? the sport that there should be more people using doping.

Dude, it's clear that you want a discussion going, not actual doping advice. You're right about the body-building scene. Just read the cutting-edge muscle forum. You're incorrect about this forum, though. We have had plenty of good discussions of what riders might take. Often helped by other riders' confessions like Kohl and Papp. Still not convinced? Try the forum's search function. You'll find great threads like this one. There's been plenty of discussion about HGH, testo, etc. based on the article Zipp0 mentioned. I'm just too lazy to dig up the thread.
 
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Dude, it's clear that you want a discussion going, not actual doping advice. You're right about the body-building scene. Just read the cutting-edge muscle forum. You're incorrect about this forum, though. We have had plenty of good discussions of what riders might take. Often helped by other riders' confessions like Kohl and Papp. Still not convinced? Try the forum's search function. You'll find great threads like this one. There's been plenty of discussion about HGH, testo, etc. based on the article Zipp0 mentioned. I'm just too lazy to dig up the thread.

That's the point.

I would like to know the version on doping in amateur world. Most of my day I spend reading news about cycling. Sure I read stories about doping in the world of stars, such as khol.

why here can we talk about how professional athletes do, but not about how the amateurs do?

Thanks by the link.. good topic!! ;)
 
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