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IAAF covered up 4 positives by Mo Farah?!

lol sceptic. That was my reaction as well.

But I remember the Nibali is going to get caught doping story 2 years ago, and how excited we were and on the brink it all seemed, so from experience, I think its better to wait and see what happens. Would be amazing if true.
 
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GuyIncognito said:
...aaaand the IAAF gala is cancelled

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The Hitch said:
Reading the google translate version of the Russian article, do they think Farah is a woman?

In particular, it is reported that the two-time Olympic champion in the women Briton Mo Farah at least four times failed a doping test, but did not give the cause of progress.

Seems to me that he failed to show up for the test but did not present a reason for it
 
My point was that they say he is a woman. Maybe they are confusing him with Ohurrugu?

In any case. If its merely missed tests and not "positives", then that would already be a major disapointment compared to what was first interpreted.

The fact that 2 hours since the original tweet, nothing has come up, also isn't great.
 
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Does anyone have a link to the Russian article as the link on Twitter isn't showing the story.

I've a friend in Lithuania who can give us a proper translation.
 
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The Hitch said:
My point was that they say he is a woman. Maybe they are confusing him with Ohurrugu?

In any case. If its merely missed tests and not "positives", then that would already be a major disapointment compared to what was first interpreted.

The fact that 2 hours since the original tweet, nothing has come up, also isn't great.

The next sentence:

Recall that in June this year, coach Alberto Salazar Lights accused of using performance-enhancing drugs.

They wouldn't bring that up if they were talking about someone else.

Link to article, you need to scroll down past the news ticker to get to the actual piece:

https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=no&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.no&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.sports.ru/others/athletics/1034396387.html

If anyone here knows Russian, and can do a better job than Google, there is the original:

Бывший президент Международной федерации легкой атлетики (IAAF) Ламине Диак, арестованый вчера за подозрения в коррупции, покрывал спортсменов разных стран, применяющих допинг.

«Ни для кого в мире легкой атлетики не секрет, что Ламин Диак через своего сына Папе Массата Диака, до недавнего времени возглавлявшего маркетинговые программы IAAF, создал целую систему взяток и поборов. Платили буквально за все. Размах коррупции был огромен. А на чемпионат мира в Москву он вообще привез несколько десятков своих родственников, к легкой атлетике отношения не имеющих. За их пребывание пришлось платить организаторам.

Те же случаи применения допинга покрывались не только в интересах России, но и других стран. Разумеется, не бесплатно. Но иногда Ламин Диак годы спустя требовал новых сумм за то, чтобы не дать ход делам, за которые уже получил деньги», – рассказал источник, знакомый с ведением дел в международной легкой атлетике.

В частности сообщается, что двукратный олимпийский чемпион в беге британец Мо Фара как минимум четыре раза проваливал допинг-тесты, но ход делу не давали.

Напомним, что в июне этого года тренера Фары Альберто Саласара обвинили в использовании допинга .
 
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The Hitch said:
lol sceptic. That was my reaction as well.

But I remember the Nibali is going to get caught doping story 2 years ago, and how excited we were and on the brink it all seemed, so from experience, I think its better to wait and see what happens. Would be amazing if true.
Wasn't it Vayer though who came up with that Nibali story
 
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The Hitch said:
My point was that they say he is a woman. Maybe they are confusing him with Ohurrugu?

In any case. If its merely missed tests and not "positives", then that would already be a major disapointment compared to what was first interpreted.

The fact that 2 hours since the original tweet, nothing has come up, also isn't great.

Also, if you play around with google translate to isolate the phrase, you get the word "women" to turn into race:

олимпийский чемпион в беге британец Мо Фара как

-->

Olympic champion in the race as the Briton Mofarah

EDIT: I am cautiously optimistic. I'm excited, but know that this big of a revelation/reveal isn't as easy as a posted article.
 
Thanks MSTR

Good work

Like you I'm a bit sceptical because history shows dopers always worm their way out of problems

And every hour that passes eats into my optimism.

LaFlorecita said:
The Hitch said:
lol sceptic. That was my reaction as well.

But I remember the Nibali is going to get caught doping story 2 years ago, and how excited we were and on the brink it all seemed, so from experience, I think its better to wait and see what happens. Would be amazing if true.
Wasn't it Vayer though who came up with that Nibali story

IIRC it was a tweet from Nibali when he said something like "it great to be a cyclist, thanks for all the memories" which together with rumours of a major positive about to be announced, made people think it was Nibs.
 
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The Hitch said:
Thanks MSTR

Good work

Like you I'm a bit sceptical because history shows dopers always worm their way out of problems

And every hour that passes eats into my optimism.

LaFlorecita said:
The Hitch said:
lol sceptic. That was my reaction as well.

But I remember the Nibali is going to get caught doping story 2 years ago, and how excited we were and on the brink it all seemed, so from experience, I think its better to wait and see what happens. Would be amazing if true.
Wasn't it Vayer though who came up with that Nibali story

IIRC it was a tweet from Nibali when he said something like "it great to be a cyclist, thanks for all the memories" which together with rumours of a major positive about to be announced, made people think it was Nibs.

I had a Russian speaker look at the article. Its not about a woman. They will tell me the full context when they finish reading it over a coffee.

The article appears to be written by a women though.

Does someone have the original link to the story not translated via Google? Its on Sports.RU?

Edit: I have it here: http://www.sports.ru/others/athletics/1034396387.html
 
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the article says that the IAAF took bribes from athletes to cover up postitive tests. It was not exclusive to Russia, almost all countries would be involved.

It also says Farah failed a minimum of 4 tests.

I got it translated by a real Russian person, not google.
 
The real translation says that Farah did fail 4 tests but he may not have actually been positive. It was Diack's way to get money from athletes. This is not to say there was a not a positive but the article is not categorically saying there was a positive test.

Edit: Its a short article, not big on detail.
 
thehog said:
The real translations says that Farah did fail 4 tests but he may not have actually been positive. It was Diack's way to get money from athletes. This is not to say there was a not a positive but the article is not categorically saying there was a positive test.

With the limited information we have. 4 Failed tests in googletranslussian could mean a lot of things:

4 failed tests not sanctioned because of TUE
4 failed tests meaning 4 failures to give a sample/be tested
4 failed tests that were bribed away.
4 failed A tests and B negatives
4 Failed A and B with no-fault rulings in a hearing

It's hard to know.

What I find weird with the simple story, 4 failed tests and 4 bribes, is that he failed so often. That is a lot of times to fail the IQ test, and that is a lot of noise for Diack to silence.
 
More Strides than Rides said:
thehog said:
The real translations says that Farah did fail 4 tests but he may not have actually been positive. It was Diack's way to get money from athletes. This is not to say there was a not a positive but the article is not categorically saying there was a positive test.

With the limited information we have. 4 Failed tests in googletranslussian could mean a lot of things:

4 failed tests not sanctioned because of TUE
4 failed tests meaning 4 failures to give a sample/be tested
4 failed tests that were bribed away.
4 failed A tests and B negatives
4 Failed A and B with no-fault rulings in a hearing

It's hard to know.

What I find weird with the simple story, 4 failed tests and 4 bribes, is that he failed so often. That is a lot of times to fail the IQ test, and that is a lot of noise for Diack to silence.

I can understand why the Russians are upset. They are not the only ones who play this game.

It could be a case whereby there was one failed test, they went back and tested more of his samples and found 3 more positives. They then asked for the hush money. Which makes me think its a threshold substance and not a black and white one which is hard to bury.

Again the article is small on words. Its not saying the 'how' just that there was "4 positives" for Farah - it doesn't say whether they were really were positive. That we may never know.

Its enough dirt for at least people to start asking questions... one would hope!
 
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More Strides than Rides said:
thehog said:
The real translations says that Farah did fail 4 tests but he may not have actually been positive. It was Diack's way to get money from athletes. This is not to say there was a not a positive but the article is not categorically saying there was a positive test.

With the limited information we have. 4 Failed tests in googletranslussian could mean a lot of things:

4 failed tests not sanctioned because of TUE
4 failed tests meaning 4 failures to give a sample/be tested
4 failed tests that were bribed away.
4 failed A tests and B negatives
4 Failed A and B with no-fault rulings in a hearing

It's hard to know.

What I find weird with the simple story, 4 failed tests and 4 bribes, is that he failed so often. That is a lot of times to fail the IQ test, and that is a lot of noise for Diack to silence.

or

that is a lot of banking to be done for Diack.
 
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GuyIncognito said:
...aaaand the IAAF gala is cancelled
Not sure that's neccesarily related.

I'm still sceptical. Heart been broken too many times ;)

Why has your heart been broken? In what are you investing so much emotional energy? Serious question
 
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Farcanal said:
The Hitch said:
GuyIncognito said:
...aaaand the IAAF gala is cancelled
Not sure that's neccesarily related.

I'm still sceptical. Heart been broken too many times ;)

Why has your heart been broken? In what are you investing so much emotional energy? Serious question

What have these questions got to do with the thread or the subject of doping?

Why do so many new posters with next to 0 posting history so obsessed with the identities of more regular posters?

Serious questions. ;)
 
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The Hitch said:
Farcanal said:
The Hitch said:
GuyIncognito said:
...aaaand the IAAF gala is cancelled
Not sure that's neccesarily related.

I'm still sceptical. Heart been broken too many times ;)

Why has your heart been broken? In what are you investing so much emotional energy? Serious question

What have these questions got to do with the thread or the subject of doping?

Why do so many new posters with next to 0 posting history so obsessed with the identities of more regular posters?

Serious questions. ;)

It was a serious question. You decided your broken heart was relevant to the thread by mentioning it. IMO it isn't and I'm not remotely interested in your identity, it's a complete irrelevance. I'd like to take the clinic seriously, but when I hear people revelling with delight that anybody may have tested positive then it brings into question their motives, and consequently anything they say is tainted.