wattage said:Let me guess, these independent observers are hand picked by the UCI?
thehog said:Yes. The have official people who all they do is watch men pee.
Oldman said:And they shall confirm the lemony yellow hue of the fluid. The part about the Independent observers having access to all levels of the testing process is the best guarantee of a relatively clean race. That and this appears to be Pat M saving his job. He can lay all the pre-Landis stuff at someone else's door and declare: "nothing to see but ancient history, no need to stir up old wounds."
It almost appears to be a start. Will WADA stay on from here out?
santacruz said:Could we force riders to take their natural breaks into jars during the race, so by the end of the race we have a truck load of pee, and then we can distill it or something to make it more concentrated.. I imagine at the end of these races these guys are peeing very watery clear liquid from all the fluids they intake, so you'd have to have the best test in the world to catch a doper with so much watery pee. I remember in highschool kids could drink a gallon of water and pass a weed test most the time.
Kodiak said:It would seem that until our sport is totally decimated will the AFLD be satisfied that they have truly removed all threat of doping.
Thoughtforfood said:From what has been suggested by his former mother stand-ins, the show isn't all that great.
Kodiak said:independent is a bit of a stretch I think. the AFLD won't be satisfied no matter what the UCI does. They have for years had issues that have only made them look like the keystone cops. It would seem that until our sport is totally decimated will the AFLD be satisfied that they have truly removed all threat of doping.
gree0232 said:Good Lord.
There seems to be a certain segment of the anti-doping community that will simply never be appeased. WADA does not work for the UCI, neither does AFLD. The intent of this is to bring in an independant, outside but informed, observer to verify the anti-doping methodology is sound .... or not.
This is another step in the right direction, and an attempt to move the sport beyond political infighting and into transparancy and RULES BASED anti-doping practices.
Hillavoider said:you sound like a DS i know who just wants to look to the future.
Kodiak said:that would be what I'd like. Thinking that you're helping the sport by going after something that happened years ago won't do any good. stop those doing it now and move on.
Kodiak said:that would be what I'd like. Thinking that you're helping the sport by going after something that happened years ago won't do any good. stop those doing it now and move on.[/QUOTE]
Alot of people currently profitting from the sport would like nothing but that. That only quietly maintains the status quo surrounding the riders. In reality I think that makes the riders the final sacrifice while the Facilitators continue on and think of new ways to defraud the system. You need to pull the dead rat out of the wall to stop the stink.