IOK suggests that Cycling should be removed from Olympics

[Cykelbloggar]

One **** Pound from IOC suggests that cycling should be removed from the olympic games if it´s as rumours are told about the suspisions that Hein Verbrüggen and Pat McQuiad are involved in the scandal around Armstrong,
I am very upset at this "Pound" when IOC at the same time as they are suggested that cycling should be removed If (as above) but at the same time allowing hockey, basketball, skiing, heavyweight etc hipocrites, all knows that NHL, AHL aren´t members of WADA and test aren´t allowed on "athletes" who play in that series, the same with NBA.

I have written about this on Cykelblogs (in Swedish) but I have added a link with help from Google transaltion. I hope you can understand what I mean!

http://translate.google.se/translat...-som-vill-ha-15-sek-i-rampljuset.html&act=url

 

[will10]

I got the impresion that was more Pound's own view rather than the offical view of the IOC. *** loves stirring the pot.

 

[coinneach]

This story is also on CN website (for those who only read the forum!)

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pou...cycling-from-olympics-on-armstrong-confession

I'd be very worried about this: more reason why we need new leadership in procycling

 

[mountainrman]

There is a pot calling a kettle black.

The IOC have a worse record than UCI for turning a blind eye to doping.

But give Dic k Pound his due - he is one if the few that ever dared challenge UCI legally over its doping stance.

 

[ElChingon]

I'm all for it, never thought it should of been in the Olympics in the first place. Hopefully IOC will crack their whip, now to remove the ribbon tossing BS as well.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

One **** Pound from IOC suggests that cycling should be removed from the olympic games if it´s as rumours are told about the suspisions that Hein Verbrüggen and Pat McQuiad are involved in the scandal around Armstrong,
I am very upset at this "Pound" when IOC at the same time as they are suggested that cycling should be removed If (as above) but at the same time allowing hockey, basketball, skiing, heavyweight etc hipocrites, all knows that NHL, AHL aren´t members of WADA and test aren´t allowed on "athletes" who play in that series, the same with NBA.

I have written about this on Cykelblogs (in Swedish) but I have added a link with help from Google transaltion. I hope you can understand what I mean!

http://translate.google.se/translat...-som-vill-ha-15-sek-i-rampljuset.html&act=url

After cycling's success in London? No way a bit of doping and some corruption scandal will remove the sport from the Rio agenda.

 

[meat puppet]

Given the circumstances, I'd say this is mainly about putting pressure upon the UCI from another angle. For now, at least.

 

[simo1733]

Pound has personal issues with both Hein and Pat(not surprising)He doesn't mind if he $*%#s cycling as long as he get's at them.

 

[martinvickers]

After cycling's success in London? No way a bit of doping and some corruption scandal will remove the sport from the Rio agenda.

100%. Not a chance, it's sabre rattling - given the relation between d!ck and UCI are rock bottom, it's no surprise, but it ain't going to happen, realistically.

Track athletes are popping left right and centre; track and field, however, are going nowhere either.

 

[D-Queued]

100%. Not a chance, it's sabre rattling - given the relation between d!ck and UCI are rock bottom, it's no surprise, but it ain't going to happen, realistically.

Track athletes are popping left right and centre; track and field, however, are going nowhere either.

Not.

This has been strongly considered before - in the wake of Operacion Puerto.

There might be doping in other sports, but cycling does own the first place position.

Dave.

 

[Benotti69]

Pound has personal issues with both Hein and Pat(not surprising)He doesn't mind if he $*%#s cycling as long as he get's at them.

The people in cycling are the ones $*%#s cycling! Why blame anyone else?

 

[D-Queued]

Not.

This has been strongly considered before - in the wake of Operacion Puerto.

There might be doping in other sports, but cycling does own the first place position.

Dave.

Add that, the reason for WADA's existence was that the IOC was prompted to act by the Festina scandal.

Festina, Operacion Puerto, Armstrong...

Do the math.

Dave.

 

[Benotti69]

Add that, the reason for WADA's existence was that the IOC was prompted to act by the Festina scandal.

Festina, Operacion Puerto, Armstrong...

Do the math.

Dave.

IOC might use cycling and its doping to send out a message to ther sports not to get caught in doping scandals or face being axed from IOC. Not suggesting other sports will clean up, but will make sure no scandals happen.

 

[laziali]

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Stupid CN swear-filter. Seriously, why is D!ck even considered a swearword???

 

[86TDFWinner]

I don't have issues with this if it happens. Thank Wonderboy for all of this.

 

[DirtyWorks]

After cycling's success in London? No way a bit of doping and some corruption scandal will remove the sport from the Rio agenda.

A highlight of 2012 that will end in Scandal is the come-from-nowhere Sky results that generated quite a bit of buzz prior to the London games. The question is, what will be the story for 2016 Rio?

The IOC itself is anti-doping controversy. What's not come out in this is how the IOC is enabling the doping. It seems Cycling's job is to take most of the doping punishment while Track and Field and Tennis and Swimming are "clean." Cycling has earned their place though, so no victim excuses.

Make no mistake, while Wonderboy was a train wreck waiting to happen, Hein and Pat among others set it all up.

 

[martinvickers]

Not.

This has been strongly considered before - in the wake of Operacion Puerto.

There might be doping in other sports, but cycling does own the first place position.

Dave.

erm...have you seen weightlifting?

They were 'threatened' with it too - never happened. And Weightlifting made cycling look clean...

 

[Dazed and Confused]

A highlight of 2012 that will end in Scandal is the come-from-nowhere Sky results that generated quite a bit of buzz prior to the London games. The question is, what will be the story for 2016 Rio?

The IOC itself is anti-doping controversy. What's not come out in this is how the IOC is enabling the doping. It seems Cycling's job is to take most of the doping punishment while Track and Field and Tennis and Swimming are "clean." Cycling has earned their place though, so no victim excuses.

Make no mistake, while Wonderboy was a train wreck waiting to happen, Hein and Pat among others set it all up.

Don't think there are any traceable bribes this time involving the latest crop of squeaky clean winners in our sport. The Rio velodrome will most likely be full of tourist from Britain and Australia. IOC loves a bit of cash.

So will Sky continue to dominate on the road? The answer is key, because the Armstrong and Pat/Hein debacle will soon be forgotten one way or the other.

 

[Viking]

I don't really pay much attention to the Olympics as it is. I really only care about cycling in the summer games and ice hockey in the winter games. I do find it odd that he's getting bent out of shape over cycling now when so many other sports are known to be pretty dirty and don't even follow the WADA guidelines (let alone have a formal relationship with WADA).

I also find it somewhat funny that Vinokourov might be the last winner of the men's road race.

 

[D-Queued]

erm...have you seen weightlifting?

They were 'threatened' with it too - never happened. And Weightlifting made cycling look clean...

Sorry, but this is a cycling forum. Not here to defend weightlifting.

But, on that topic:

The first person to die from doping at the Olympics was a cyclist.

WADA was not created because of a doping problem in weightlifting.

There has been no Festina, Pantani, Operacion Puerto, Telekom affair, 2001 Giro, Oil for Drugs, Vrijman Report, Floyd/2006 Tour, or Lance Armstrong in weightlifting.

Dave.

 

[Cykelbloggar]

Sorry, but this is a cycling forum. Not here to defend weightlifting.

But, on that topic:

The first person to die from doping at the Olympics was a cyclist.

WADA was not created because of a doping problem in weightlifting.

There has been no Festina, Pantani, Operacion Puerto, Telekom affair, 2001 Giro, Oil for Drugs, Vrijman Report, Floyd/2006 Tour, or Lance Armstrong in weightlifting.

Dave.

Just for your info, Pantani has never been charged with doping, even if the possiblility was most likely that he did.

The IOC member from Sweden has today denied everything that Pound have said, there is no substance no matter what. But it´s sad to see a member go out and talk for all of them, but the truth is just a frog jumping out of his mouth.

//Fritz

 

[DirtyWorks]

I don't really pay much attention to the Olympics as it is. I really only care about cycling in the summer games and ice hockey in the winter games. I do find it odd that he's getting bent out of shape over cycling now

Mr. Pound has been consistent in his distaste for cycling's corruption to the point of the UCI suing and getting some kind of apology out of him. It turns out Mr. Pound was right.

when so many other sports are known to be pretty dirty and don't even follow the WADA guidelines (let alone have a formal relationship with WADA).

WADA is an IOC-related artifice that arose not just out of Festina, but the ugly fact national olympic committees were suppressing doping positives prior to Games.

if you run a sports federation that wants Olympics consideration, you must vaguely comply with WADA regulations. In practice, WADA regulations are an athlete IQ test anyway. but, if your sports federation doesn't care about getting into the IOC, then WADA is unimportant.

 

[Viking]

if you run a sports federation that wants Olympics consideration, you must vaguely comply with WADA regulations. In practice, WADA regulations are an athlete IQ test anyway. but, if your sports federation doesn't care about getting into the IOC, then WADA is unimportant.

Agreed. Looks like I wasn't very clear though, as NHL and NBA athletes participate in the olympics in ice hockey and basketball respectively, but don't come close to WADA regulations. I suspect they're pretty heavy PED usage in those two leagues, yet those sports aren't getting any flack about it.

 

[martinvickers]

Sorry, but this is a cycling forum. Not here to defend weightlifting.

But, on that topic:

The first person to die from doping at the Olympics was a cyclist.

WADA was not created because of a doping problem in weightlifting.

There has been no Festina, Pantani, Operacion Puerto, Telekom affair, 2001 Giro, Oil for Drugs, Vrijman Report, Floyd/2006 Tour, or Lance Armstrong in weightlifting.

Dave.

The point of WADA is to follow a sport that regularly crosses international borders - since Wrestling competitions tend to be site stable and site specific, that doesn't apply.

Nevertheless, if we include lance, the current positive test at the Games ratio is cyclists 10 - weightlifters 40 - indeed, weightlifters have pinged at practically every games - right up until the threats against its position in the Games were made.

No we know dope testing is only the ip of the ice berg - but if cycling is bad, jeez, in weightlifting, that's some iceberg.

 

[D-Queued]

Just for your info, Pantani has never been charged with doping, even if the possiblility was most likely that he did.

The IOC member from Sweden has today denied everything that Pound have said, there is no substance no matter what. But it´s sad to see a member go out and talk for all of them, but the truth is just a frog jumping out of his mouth.

//Fritz

And most of the participants in O.P., Oil for Drugs, etc. haven't been charged with doping either. Those that were charged in Festina, and actually given competition bans ultimately had those bans reduced to three months by the UCI.

Your point?

And, is this an official IOC statement or spokesperson from Sweden? Just being an IOC member puts you in the same league as all of those who took bribes during the Salt Lake City bid* and other bids.

If Mr. Pound says that the IOC should review cycling, I agree with him.

If the IOC doesn't review cycling, then what is the point in trying to enforce anti-doping? Only athletes can be sanctioned, but organizations that aid and abet doping cannot? And when that 'organization' is actually the sports governing body, then what - blame the bad athletes alone?

Again, your point?

Dave.

*Even though ten IOC members were ultimately expelled. In 2006, a report ordered by the Nagano region's governor said the Japanese city provided millions of dollars in an "illegitimate and excessive level of hospitality" to IOC members, including US$4.4 million spent on entertainment alone