Is 2014 Tour the beginning of a new cycling era

[maxmartin]

At this very early stage and with the rumoured TT-heavy route that looks about right, long time between now and then though of course. I wonder what price Tejay is? if a couple of the big 4 don't line up or crash again and there is 100k of TT then he could be value.

Didin't TJ did very well in 2012 Tour?

 

[Pricey_sky]

Didin't TJ did very well in 2012 Tour?

Yes 5th @ 11mins down.

 

[Jspear]

It's hard to say when a "new era" will come in. It's not like the new generation will all arise together. (for example Quintana is already here.) CF, AC, VN, and NQ aren't going anywhere for a couple years. Everyone else will have to wait.

 

[Escarabajo]

one hit wonder

Math is not your great skill!

 

[hfer07]

addressing the OP's original question: What's happening is the "decline" of the powers that be in all Cycling fields while colliding with the youngsters coming up. Froome & Contador will last at best 2 more years-Purito as well, Evans is gone, the Schleck Brothers are history, while Nibali, Quintana, Aru, Pinot, Sagan, Kwiat, Baret, Kittel, Bouhanni, and many more are set for the future battles.

What I'm concern about is on the "cobbles classics" department, because Bonnen & Cancellara are reaching the end of their best years...

 

[Taxus4a]

There are new riders, but not a new era.

Maybe start a new era for France.

AC has two years more, maybe Valverde one more, but it looks the end for some objetives for Evans and Basso.

 

[Dutchsmurf]

Am I the only one who considers Nibali part of the Contador era and not part of a new one? When I think of new era I think of guys like Aru, Quintana, etc.

 

[movingtarget]

How can it be a new era when Nibali, Horner and Froome are winning grand tours. Quintana did not beat Nibali, Froome or Contador in the Giro. The Tour changed completely with Contador and Froome out. Riders that finished in the top 5 except for Nibali would have lost minutes and the French would not have podiumed. Peraud is 37. New era ? Horner is 42. Jens Voight has retired so maybe it is the start of the new era. Until riders like Contador disappear from the podium, Froome and Nibali who is a little younger then it will be a new era. Just because the French have some good young riders it does not mean they will win. I remember they had the same feelings about Rolland. There is more chance of the Colombians winning multiple GTs than the French I think so it might become the Colombian era soon. Cancellara and Gilbert are still winning classics and Valverde, Gerrans so even the classics have not changed much as far as results go.

 

[maxmartin]

There are new riders, but not a new era.

Maybe start a new era for France.

AC has two years more, maybe Valverde one more, but it looks the end for some objetives for Evans and Basso.

How do you know this? Or it is just your random guess?

 

[Jspear]

Am I the only one who considers Nibali part of the Contador era and not part of a new one? When I think of new era I think of guys like Aru, Quintana, etc.

Nope your not. I don't know why anyone would consider Nibali part of the new era. He is not. He is as old as Froome and he has been around (riding at high level) longer than Froome. If he is part of the new guard than Froome is.

 

[Jspear]

How do you know this? Or it is just your random guess?

I think its a random guess, but also maybe an educated one. He did resonantly state that he wouldn't be around as long as riders like Cadel.

 

[xanadu]

The problem with heralding the dawn of as new era is that they were all comprehensively beaten by the third string of the old guard. What ever his tour credentials Nibali is yet to prove himself equal to a fully fit Skybot vroom and Alberto where it reeally matters.
Dont get me wrong , Tejay, Bardet and Pinot were positively inspirational and throw in Kelderman and Aru and the future looks bright. But they are for the future not for now.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

A 37 year old came 2nd in the tour. A 40 year old won the Vuelta.

And the 34 year old Ten Dam also had his best GT ever

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

I think the generation that is now breaking through is very talented though. I know Contador, Froome, Nibali and Quintana will last for a few more years, but I think the new generation is breathing down their neck, ready to join the ranks with the top guns. I don't think the 'big four' will stay far ahead of upcoming riders from the new era, like Horner and Peraud, for very long. Guys like Evans and Voigt aren't quite there yet, but if they keep on improving steadily each year, like for instance Nibali, who knows where they will end. In a few years, we won't be talking about the 'big four', but rather the 'big forties'.

 

[rainman]

Sky eclipsed and not just by Froome's crash. Something has shifted for sure, other teams are just as savvy. Whether its a new era, that's a leap. When Merckx came along it was a new era, Hinault, Indurain also. LA ushered a new era, mightily flawed but a different approach, win no matter what it takes, defeat simply not an option.
It seems to take an outstanding, dominant, forceful, ruthless rider backed by a powerful team.
Not seeing that at present.

 

[karlboss]

Sky eclipsed and not just by Froome's crash. Something has shifted for sure, other teams are just as savvy. Whether its a new era, that's a leap. When Merckx came along it was a new era, Hinault, Indurain also. LA ushered a new era, mightily flawed but a different approach, win no matter what it takes, defeat simply not an option.
It seems to take an outstanding, dominant, forceful, ruthless rider backed by a powerful team.
Not seeing that at present.

I think it's a new era, " The marginal gains approach that led to success upon success has been replicated, tweaked and improved." Kerrison.

 

[No_Balls]

When your god actually races against contenders in the current era, and not capitalizes upon other misfortunes (which was celebrated by this particular bot), then we still speak about the current era. Part of those Nibali held his own against could have been member of the Bugno-era.

 

[TANK91]

Is this the time we say goodbye to an old era of AV, AC and CE? And say hello to the next generation of promising cyclists! Discuss away.

Yeah Nibali is the new genration(rolls eyes)

 

[TANK91]

How about this question, was this last time a rider like Nibali will be luckiest TDF winner since Perriero, should i make thread about that?

 

[TANK91]

They've been at it the entire Tour and the mods have no issue with it, so why would they stop?

-CE has been over for a while.
-AV like previously stated is better for 1 day and 1 week stage races.
-AC still has several years of high quality GT riding in him if he continues to put in the effort. Contador is closer in age to Nibali (1 year, 11 months) than he is to Valverde (2 year, 8 months).

Though they are plenty of high quality young riders coming through.

Because most mods are Nibali fans trust me.

 

[Netserk]

How about this question, was this last time a rider like Nibali will be luckiest TDF winner since Perriero, should i make thread about that?

1) Pereiro isn't a Tour winner, he is a runner-up.

2) Contador 2007 is the luckiest Tour winner I can remember.

 

[maxmartin]

"I've nothing to hide. Wiggins, Froome, and I are the new faces of the recent history of the Tour de France. Cycling is different now and I think I've shown that." --Nibali

 

[Miburo]

Tour 2014 was a transition year, nibali won't win it again and i bet he knows it. You can't conclude anthing from this year besides that valverde needs to stop going there but many of us already knew that.

 

[Angliru]

How can it be a new era when Nibali, Horner and Froome are winning grand tours. Quintana did not beat Nibali, Froome or Contador in the Giro. The Tour changed completely with Contador and Froome out. Riders that finished in the top 5 except for Nibali would have lost minutes and the French would not have podiumed. Peraud is 37. New era ? Horner is 42. Jens Voight has retired so maybe it is the start of the new era. Until riders like Contador disappear from the podium, Froome and Nibali who is a little younger then it will be a new era. Just because the French have some good young riders it does not mean they will win. I remember they had the same feelings about Rolland. There is more chance of the Colombians winning multiple GTs than the French I think so it might become the Colombian era soon. Cancellara and Gilbert are still winning classics and Valverde, Gerrans so even the classics have not changed much as far as results go.

It's already the start of the Colombian era with multiple grand tour podiums in the past 2 years and one Giro victory. The French have only this year's Tour to jump start their years of deprivation. I would say that the prospects for success in the grand tours and week long stage racing looks much brighter for the Colombians than the French if you look at the two nations young prospects so we're in agreement there.

 

[cineteq]

Tour 2014 was a transition year, nibali won't win it again and i bet he knows it. You can't conclude anthing from this year besides that valverde needs to stop going there but many of us already knew that.

I will be hard for Nibali to win again, based on heavy TdF ITT parcours coming up. It depends also on having a better team than this year's.

How about this question, was this last time a rider like Nibali will be luckiest TDF winner since Perriero, should i make thread about that?

You're such a joke, Nibali and Pereiro in the same sentence? You just you've just created a new Google entry.