Jennie Longo pulls a Rasmussen

[Damiano Machiavelli]

Three wherabouts violations. A rider that raced through the EPO era doping, who would have thought.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/9...inary-action-over-whereabouts-violations.aspx

 

[Big Doopie]

no surprise here. i remember her being implicated back in the 90s too...

 

[Maxiton]

Jennie Longo is a phenomenon on two feet. Fifty-two years old. Still competitive. From the article you linked:

Longo continues to be successful in the sport despite her age. She has won the French championship title for the past four years, and taken eleven TT championships in all. Astonishingly, her first national title came 32 years ago.

During her long career she has also won three editions of the women’s Tour de France, gold and silver medals in Olympic Road race, plus silver and bronze in Olympic time trial. Her palmares also includes nine road world championship titles (five in the road race, four in the TT), four track world championship titles (pursuit and points races), as well as three silvers and three bronze medals.

She also showed her versatility in taking the world hour record in 2000 plus the silver medal in 1993 UCI world mountain bike championship.

On the one hand she has never really received, in the general press at least, the attention she deserves. On the other hand, as a competitive athlete and not someone assigned to some sort of Masters' Special Needs category, she has to play by the same rules as everyone else.

 

[joe_papp]

The only thing Jeannie Longo is...

Jennie Longo is a phenomenon on two feet...

Jeannie Longo is phenomenally fcked.

 

[hfer07]

in all fairness, at 52 y.o. she may have forgotten to let them know of her whereabouts.......

 

[Spider1964]

Some questions -

Jennie is at an age where menopause is typical (Av age 51).

If she is post Menopause? Hormone replacement therapy would be an option? Would she require a TUE?

Estradiol, testosterone and progesterone production is ceased or compromised at menopause, could these levels be manipulated by an expert blood doper?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menopause#Menopause

 

[ferryman]

no surprise here. i remember her being implicated back in the 90s too...

For a moment there I read that as back in the 60s

 

[Swabian Lass]

It's inexcusable. She knows better. Sad end to a long career.

 

[hrotha]

On the one hand she has never really received, in the general press at least, the attention she deserves.

Really? Because at least here she's the most famous female cyclist after Somarriba. That still doesn't mean she's popular, but she's a lot more famous than, say, Marianne Vos.

 

[Le breton]

Joe Papp vs Patrice Ciprelli and his wife

Jeannie Longo is phenomenally fcked.

A few months ago you made some unwarranted damaging insinuations against the husband-wife team.

Now is your opportunity to say more or just shut up.

Sure, Jeannie Longo needs cycling to exist, but at least she has gathered some successes on the way.

What do you need to exist? : sell dope? denigrate your clients or pretend some stars are your clients?

 

[python]

sad stuff...

interesting it was usada that attempted to control here the 3d time. she certainly was targeted by the afld-usada joint effort.

the details i'd like to know:
(i) when and where were her previous 2 'misses' (all 3 must occur within 18 months)
(ii) what does it mean 'there was no sign of here in that location' ? was she not in the hotel when the testers arrived or did she falsely inform the authorities of here whereabouts ?

if it's the latter, she would seem to be intentionally lying.

all said and done, it's a well known phenomena that sophisticated dopers of all ages and nations have learned to exploit the whereabouts loop holes. unfortunately, the longer one competes, the higher the chance that one will stumble eventually.

 

[skippy]

SAD to see that there is a " Witch hunt " starting ! Did a post on Jeannie recently and the material i saw along the way confirmed that the " Tall Poppy Syndrome " applies to women as well !

Could it be ALL 3 "violations " apply to this trip ? With the wealth of climbing and scenery available in the Savoie , France one wonders why she would train elsewhere unless it was on the back of a Career commitment ?

As regards notifications when you have advised being out of the country would sending " Reg. Mail " to your home address be satisfactory ?

As regards Eurosport i did a post about my experiences relating to the Froome v Cobo " Epic" which i would have enjoyed seeing but Eurosport are more interested in rolling balls than " Epic " climbing finishes !

 

[Le breton]

no surprise here. i remember her being implicated back in the 90s too...

Yes, that was in 1988, in the glorious time or her relentless record-beating years.
You can find a detailed account here
http://www.cyclisme-dopage.com/actualite/1988-xx-xx-dumieldansmoncartable.htm

and see that it was a bit ridiculous. A millionth of a gram of ephedrin per milliliter, the source of it was eventually found in a product containing 1.5% of ephedrin.

This time it could be more serious : as pointed out by Python it might be a combined afld-usada effort to catch her.

In 1988 it looked more like an anti-French move by the US agency of the time.

 

[Le breton]

Could it be ALL 3 "violations " apply to this trip ? With the wealth of climbing and scenery available in the Savoie , France one wonders why she would train elsewhere unless it was on the back of a Career commitment ?

For 20 years she has trained at altitude in the US where she has a number of friends and where she is left alone much more than in Isère ( not Savoie).

For extended stays at altitude it is clear that the US rockies offer far more possibilities than the French alps.

 

[happychappy]

For 20 years she has trained at altitude in the US where she has a number of friends and where she is left alone much more than in Isère ( not Savoie).

For extended stays at altitude it is clear that the US rockies offer far more possibilities than the French alps.

Plenty of "anti aging clinics" too.

 

[Le breton]

Plenty of "anti aging clinics" too.

Really?
Do you have addresses? I really need a good one

How about the rates? Do you think my health insurance will pay? After all the $ is really weak now (compared to the Swiss franc).

 

[Benotti69]

Longo 'unbelievably' at the top her sport for more than 30 years....

 

[sniper]

yeah, it seems that there is only relatively few women willing to take bigger risks.

Remember also Leontien-Schwarzenegger-van Moorsel.

When she quit cycling, she lost weight so rapidly, that she came up with some story about anorexia.

Back in the days she was the only one who could compete with Jeannie.

 

[joe_papp]

jerk

A few months ago you made some unwarranted damaging insinuations against the husband-wife team.

Now is your opportunity to say more or just shut up.

Sure, Jeannie Longo needs cycling to exist, but at least she has gathered some successes on the way.

What do you need to exist? : sell dope? denigrate your clients or pretend some stars are your clients?

The insinuations weren't unwarranted, stronzo. Read on and then stuff it.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/9...to-give-evidence-in-Longo-doping-hearing.aspx

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

The insinuations weren't unwarranted, stronzo. Read on and then stuff it.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/9...to-give-evidence-in-Longo-doping-hearing.aspx

Dude, you get around. After your legal issues are finished will there be a book?

 

[L'arriviste]

sad stuff...

interesting it was usada that attempted to control here the 3d time. she certainly was targeted by the afld-usada joint effort.

the details i'd like to know:
(i) when and where were her previous 2 'misses' (all 3 must occur within 18 months)
(ii) what does it mean 'there was no sign of here in that location' ? was she not in the hotel when the testers arrived or did she falsely inform the authorities of here whereabouts ?

if it's the latter, she would seem to be intentionally lying.

all said and done, it's a well known phenomena that sophisticated dopers of all ages and nations have learned to exploit the whereabouts loop holes. unfortunately, the longer one competes, the higher the chance that one will stumble eventually.

As far as we'll probably ever know, she was not there when the testers arrived. That's how it was with all of the (reasonably straightforward) whereabouts cases of which I'm aware, from Cabreira to Van Dijk. Who knows whether or not she deliberately misinformed the authorities.

Massive risk to take, especially if you're already on a first or second warning, but I guess Longo was comfortable with it. I say that because what speaks volumes, I think, is that Longo has failed to file her excuses, presumably because in addition to a phone and laptop, she is also averse to fax machines and the postal service. That's why I guess this is still an investigation rather than a witch-hunt.

 

[Benotti69]

As far as we'll probably ever know, she was not there when the testers arrived. That's how it was with all of the (reasonably straightforward) whereabouts cases of which I'm aware, from Cabreira to Van Dijk. Who knows whether or not she deliberately misinformed the authorities.

Massive risk to take, especially if you're already on a first or second warning, but I guess Longo was comfortable with it. I say that because what speaks volumes, I think, is that Longo has failed to file her excuses, presumably because in addition to a phone and laptop, she is also averse to fax machines and the postal service. That's why I guess this is still an investigation rather than a witch-hunt.

i dont understand how a top pro athlete can claim to be averse to modern technology!

Didn't stop her riding the latest equipment!!

 

[Anonymous]

A few months ago you made some unwarranted damaging insinuations against the husband-wife team.

Now is your opportunity to say more or just shut up.

the velonationj article also says that Joe may be called to testify. Im sure you can work out that therefore prevents him from saying anything now.

 

[frenchfry]

Jeannie Longo is phenomenally fcked.

I read this post this morning and found it rather cryptic.

Then I saw this:

http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves2011/20110909_131449_joe-papp-s-attend-a-temoigner.html

Now I see what you were getting at.

As a sidenote, I still can't figure out why you hero worship Vino on another thread. His drug fueled attacks represented everything wrong about cycling - only the dopers were visible. He would be nothing without the sauce.

 

[L'Etranger]

Today she is pulling out the "most tested athlete ever" line. Am I the only one who finds this has a credibility effect opposite to the one intended? What next, she has done too much good for too many people?