Do they not knock on doors in Denmark?Riis, Rasmussen ....
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/jonas-vingegaard-reveals-details-of-single-missed-anti-doping-test/
Sounds familiar ...
Why are we getting this now though? Something about to happen to Hessman?
Danish doorbells aint what they used to be
"I had left my cell phone in the kitchen and the doorbell didn't work."
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To be fair to him, he can't really say anything else. And the day he gets caught, if it ever happens, it won't matter whether he'd kept his mouth shut or not.
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Of course, they were still saving up for a functioning doorbell ... I hope the new homes in Switzerland and France have a doorbell that works, otherwise there might be problems.to be fair, we seem to be talking about 2019 there, just having left the fish factory
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So Vingo made it clear. Time to close the whole clinic:
"I don't take anything, and I don't think that the rest of the peloton does either. Since I can win the Tour de France twice without taking anything, I also believe that everyone else doesn't take anything either."
"I don't take anything, and I don't think that the rest of the peloton does either. Since I can win the Tour de France twice without taking anything, I also believe that everyone else doesn't take anything either."
Performance-optimized, artificial human doesn't have to dope.
Like we’ve seen in the past, journalists who want to maintain their personal access to athletes for information and quotes, will go easy on them. But Couldn’t some still have the integrity to say—without sarcasm, rancor, or judgment—“thanks for sharing that about yourself Mr.Vingegaard, but as far as the peloton goes 100 yrs of cycling history tells us otherwise. The preponderance of evidence indicates that there were and are always some riders in the peloton doping. The only real question is how many of them and how much.”
I miss the old Clinic. a mistake (cause you can miss 3 tests) by the current double TDF winner and from the team winning everything in the season, would have been blown quite high 5-6 years ago. it's too quiet nowadays
What sounds stupid to you? He says we should be able to speak about everything in cycling, including doping. Saying he missed a test back in 2019 is just him being honest. In line with his words.Is he really as stupid as he sounds?
Jonas Vingegaard reveals details of single missed anti-doping test
'I don't take anything, and I don't think that the rest of the peloton does either' says Dane, who missed test in 2019www.cyclingnews.com
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wow!!!!!! i cant believe jonas vingegaard is doping!!!!!! i thought he was clean this whole time. so shocking.
It's a missed test from 2019. And it's Vingegaard who brought it up, nobody forced him to. That's different to certain other riders and teams. However I think he might as well just not say anything, because as you can see in the reactions in this thread, it doesn't really matter what you say, and it doesn't really matter how many times you're tested, the sceptics won't believe you anyway. So what's the point. Which is kind of what he's trying to say as well
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You don’t know that. He could be threatened this would go public and wants to control the narrative. He could be under investigation and VLaB instructed him to come clean (again to control the narrative). On Monday, there was an article on wielerflits:It's a missed test from 2019. And it's Vingegaard who brought it up, nobody forced him to. That's different to certain other riders and teams. However I think he might as well just not say anything, because as you can see in the reactions in this thread, it doesn't really matter what you say, and it doesn't really matter how many times you're tested, the sceptics won't believe you anyway. So what's the point. Which is kind of what he's trying to say as well
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/wada-maakt-zich-zorgen-om-nieuwe-vorm-van-bloeddoping/
Could be that something is cooking… I was not the least bit surprised he made a statement like that today and I don’t buy for one second he just remembered about that incident all of a sudden while completely forgetting about it when asked about doping during his TDF campaigns.
Roy Keane has had his say on the incident, in a spectacular intervention.
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I never got this - why is it good manners to let it ring? And why do people who are letting their callers wait for them to answer like they’re some kind of idiots not at least learn the key that lets them ring silently not disturbing others?
He told it 8 days ago to a Danish newspaper...
Your imagination is running away with you. Or perhaps it is wishful thinking. Get ready to be dominated next year
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"People ask me what I'm on. I'm on my bike six hours a day. What are you on?"
We've heard this shaite before.
I imagine someone was going to leak it so his PR team wanted to get ahead of the news.
I can't get worked up about a single missed test. Multiple misses, lies about whereabouts and cover-ups are different. We'll see if there's more to come on this story.
I can't get worked up about a single missed test. Multiple misses, lies about whereabouts and cover-ups are different. We'll see if there's more to come on this story.
Your reaction is pretty much exactly what I meant. No matter what he says, the sceptics won't believe it anyway. Or, like you, they question the timing.
Yes, it could be that he's trying to stay ahead and revealing his sins before someone else does... but even then, if some journalist had said "Vingegaard missed a test in 2019", wouldn't the end result have been exactly the same?
Let me give another example: the team said that Vingegaard is so against using any type of substance, he doesn't even use ketones. But does this Clinic thread think that's a good thing? Of course not
It makes him even more suspect. That's just how it goes.
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To tell you the truth, I would prefer he’s clean. Even if I don’t like him. It’s really not in our best interest for cycling to be on a bad rep…
It’s just that I don’t think he just went on and mentioned that specific occurrence without a good reason. Why would he do that? I mean surely he must have thought it through and VLAB thought it through before saying it… You don’t just say “Oh and by the way, I missed a doping control test” without having thought it through.
I’m not saying he doped - I’m just saying that he probably was forced to say it as opposed to theyoungest who appears to believe he said it from the goodness of his heart…
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Ok but if the reason for him saying it now really is that he is so much against doping, why didn’t he mention this missed test during 2022 or 2023 TDF when asked about doping?Your reaction is pretty much exactly what I meant. No matter what he says, the sceptics won't believe it anyway. Or, like you, they question the timing.
Yes, it could be that he's trying to stay ahead and revealing his sins before someone else does... but even then, if some journalist had said "Vingegaard missed a test in 2019", wouldn't the end result have been exactly the same?
Let me give another example: the team said that Vingegaard is so against using any type of substance, he doesn't even use ketones. But does this Clinic thread think that's a good thing? Of course not
The journalist from EkstraBladet asked him directly: "Have you ever missed a doping test?" I bet that's the first time anyone ever asked him that question, and why would he lie about it? It would have the potential to hurt him a lot more of he did. You then can think he wanted EkstraBladet to ask that question to come out with the 'news' for whatever reason, but that just confirms the point that there is no winning for Vingegaard. Skeptics will be skeptical.
It was a series of questions asked by the journalist btw, also "did you any weird experience with doping tests?" and "are you or have you ever been embarrassed by these tests?" and a few more questions about doping tests, how they are carried out etc
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not saying he's doping. au contraire, 1 missed test means nothing. I was just noticing The Clinic misses the old members who would go on rants about this or that rider at any occasion. that atmosphere is gone forever. the vitriol and obsession are long gone souvenirs. just that
It's a missed test from 2019. And it's Vingegaard who brought it up, nobody forced him to. That's different to certain other riders and teams. However I think he might as well just not say anything, because as you can see in the reactions in this thread, it doesn't really matter what you say, and it doesn't really matter how many times you're tested, the sceptics won't believe you anyway. So what's the point. Which is kind of what he's trying to say as well
not saying he's doping. au contraire, 1 missed test means nothing. I was just noticing The Clinic misses the old members who would go on rants about this or that rider at any occasion. that atmosphere is gone forever. the vitriol and obsession are long gone souvenirs. just that
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He repeated the same old *** that everyone does nowadays. Do you really think the peloton is clean now?
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