Jonas Vingegaard: Something is Rotten

[Escarabajo]

I was so upset with Pogacar's performance in 2020. What do we call this? Where does it stop? Is a Doctor's phone call to the UCI required like it happened in 1996 or 1997 (can't remember)?

 

[DenisMenchov]

I bet he glows in the dark. This is out of this world. The raw power he produces on the flats is the most insane thing. His climbing is just a natural consequence...

 

[topt]

Gonna cry?

we should all, now please back to danish tv

 

[ashhutch1997]

The only way he gets popped is if he starts to dominate, every year.

 

[StryderHells]

I'm sure there's doping involved - but perhaps only doping according to my conception of it. It could be that the riders get medication that is legal according to the rules, or that the teams have made deals with the organizations so that there is no risk of being sanctioned.

Doping that is legal is legal and not doping. I don’t think that’s what we are talking about with the big kids at this Tour

 

[Rackham]

I didn't post here for years. Sure, there may be dopers. But how the *** can a skeleton go 2.5 minutes faster on a short TT with a cat 2 climb?

HOW!?

This isn't even about drugs. Did WvA go that slow?

I remember that Dumolin, who is commentating right now on this TT on NOS tv, say after losing to Pogi on a flat TT by over a minute, that he never would go that fast.
As a result of that, Dumolin retired. I am looking at Dumonlin's arms, they are huge. He is a muscular guy. Pogi took a minute out of Dumolin, who has been a TT expert all his cycling career. Dumonlin was just trying to win that TT. But Pogi was trying to win the general classification.

And now Pogi is just as fast. But Vingegaard goes 2 minutes faster than that? WTF

How can all the blood bags and EPO even do this?

Marginal gains? This is so extreme, it must be an electric motor of some sorts. Or something completely ground breaking in terms of areo.

Dumolin retired because of Pogi's TT back when he had his shock victory over Roglic.
Dumolin said this was the best TT in cycling history, ever.

It's not aero. Vinge was riding with his knees sticking out like Froome's elbows.

It's just absolutely power. Pog was as good as he was on LPDBF. No question. It's just not enough anymore.

 

[Jeppeb]

He was destroying everyone on the flat before the last climb, but yeah your right, totally normal per

Dude he put 3 minutes on Van Aert in 22 km. Yes it is frickin' weird

Like you don't even need to believe he's dirty but pretending it wasn't an extraordinary performance is just absurd

It doesnt warrant this insane overreaction, this thread is exploding, if Pogacar won in the same fashion the reactions wouldnt be the same, not even remotely... I just find the double standard ridiculous

 

[DrSahl]

long time lurker, seen some crazy ***. this one required me to make an account.

hope he gets caught, disgusting to see this.

Only disliked Riders get caugh or if they don´t follow the guidelines.
That is how professional sports work. It is entertainment more than anything.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

It's not aero. Vinge was riding with his knees sticking out like Froome's elbows.

It's just absolutely power. Pog was as good as he was on LPDBF. No question. It's just not enough anymore.

Initially I thought that Vinge's ride was less fluid than Pogacar's but he simply couldn't fully control his ridiculous power!

 

[ashhutch1997]

Jonus is literally setting himself up with his post stage quotes, even he can't belive it 😂

 

[ontheroad]

In a perverse sort of way you have to admire Jumbo and JV for having the cajones to go full thermonuclear today in their desire to win the Tour. They probably expected UAE to ramp it up another level after what happened in 2020 and they weren't going to leave anything to chance today. Keeping it plausible is only possible after victory is assured so they can afford to dial it back again now in the remaining stages now that they have a time gap. But still, how can anybody outside team Jumbo actually celebrate that.

 

[Bolder]

I wonder how Jonás spent his rest day…

Not doing back flips into the pool....

 

[nightowl]

It's not aero. Vinge was riding with his knees sticking out like Froome's elbows.

It's just absolutely power. Pog was as good as he was on LPDBF. No question. It's just not enough anymore.

Yeah it can’t be aero. He didn’t change his position since the Duaphine, and he was climbing at a similar level there to the rest of the tour. But somehow this? There’s no way

 

[perico]

Does Jonas suffer from bilharzia?

 

[DrSahl]

It doesnt warrant this insane overreaction, this thread is exploding, if Pogacar won in the same fashion the reactions wouldnt be the same, not even remotely... I just find the double standard ridiculous

It would. Pogacar is the same, there is no difference on the two in my opinion, they just throw a dice to see whom gets to do the daily insane movement,.

 

[KZD]

I will patiently wait until this guy gets caught. This was the most unreal performance I have ever watched.

 

[Riek s]

I accept 99% of the peloton are juiced, but this is just ridiculous. How do you explain a 60kg rider doing this?

Tailwind

 

[proffate]

someone book this tweaker please

 

[zlev11]

It doesnt warrant this insane overreaction, this thread is exploding, if Pogacar won in the same fashion the reactions wouldnt be the same, not even remotely... I just find the double standard ridiculous

it absolutely would be exactly the same if pogacar, or anyone else, beat vingegaard by 1:48 and everyone else by 2:55 in 22k. this is maybe the most insane performance in cycling history.

 

[Escarabajo]

Jonas is in trouble with the French media!

 

[ashhutch1997]

Initially I thought that Vinge's ride was less fluid than Pogacar's but he simply couldn't fully control his ridiculous power!

He was getting speedwoble up at 10% climb

 

[Peyroteo94]

I was so upset with Pogacar's performance in 2020. What do we call this? Where does it stop? Is a Doctor's phone call to the UCI required like it happened in 1996 or 1997 (can't remember)?

But Pogacar's performance looked human at least. Roglic was just subpar and the TT was way longer.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Does Jonas suffer from bilharzia?

Even if Froome's performances could be explained by bilharzia, then what illness would Vingegaard have needed to have had in his early 20s to explain his? Terminal cancer?

 

[kingjr]

It doesnt warrant this insane overreaction, this thread is exploding, if Pogacar won in the same fashion the reactions wouldnt be the same, not even remotely... I just find the double standard ridiculous

The reactions were similar three years ago, it's just that people have grown more accustomed to Pogacar doing crazy things.

 

[nightowl]

It would. Pogacar is the same, there is no difference on the two in my opinion, they just throw a dice to see whom gets to do the daily insane movement,.

No this is something else entirely. Pogacar did a La Planche, when you compare it to Wout. Yet Vingegaard puts an even bigger gap between himself and Pogacar.