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Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard: The Butterfly Effect

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Is he still at the hospital? I don’t think visma telling the whole story. Is it not weird still being at the hospital 4 days after a simple collarbone surgery?
He’s going to be in the hospital for at least a week due to needing a chest tube to remove the air from the pneumothorax. After that it’s hard to say. On other patient that aren’t as fit or active as Vinge, they’d have the tube 2-7 days. Then if they want to keep him for monitoring some more days. I can definitely see him taking awhile before strenuous training due to the fractures and lung issues. Both those lung conditions will make it harder to breathe and exert himself. Plus the chest tube is painful with any movement and gets worse the better he gets till it’s removed, then you have to add in the pain that stays once removed.
SHADOW93 explained earlier in the thread. It's the pneumothorax that is the issue, not just a 'simple collarbone surgery'
 
It’s completely unacceptable noone has contacted them with any updates unless they have no relationship and everyone knows about it. The team should be in contact with them (even if was is comatose).

On the other hand, I’ll never understand why anyone would go to the media with a story like that…
I don’t know how it is elsewhere but in the USA if Vingegaard didn’t want his parents to know his health and status they’d never find out. I would assume other countries have HIPAA laws and regulations. That doesn’t make it any better but if those are his wishes that’s what he wants.
 
Why does Vingegaard have the same family problems as an 80 year old who is in cognitive decline? I know he‘s very shy but either his condition is worse than reported or this has been going on for some time already.
Nah, not comparable at all. At least he’s able to make decisions for himself. Imagine seeing your next of kin arguing about your resuscitation, living arrangements, etc. and there’s nothing you can do about it. It’s sad how ugly things can get and the frequency guardianship is consulted/requested.
 
Cyclinguptodate is a very low quality website, I don't know why some individuals spam it. That interview with Vingegaard's father was published on 9 April, so it's not really up to date.

I also had a look at the original source, Ekstra Bladet, I'm not Danish, but at first glance it's a rather sensationalist tabloid. So I think whatever is written there should be taken with a pinch of salt.
 
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I don’t know how it is elsewhere but in the USA if Vingegaard didn’t want his parents to know his health and status they’d never find out. I would assume other countries have HIPAA laws and regulations. That doesn’t make it any better but if those are his wishes that’s what he wants.
He may want to keep the press off their backs as well as his. Once he's home and rehabbing he'll have more control of whatever narrative he has to deal with. Remember how many people came to see his public welcome....it looked papal in scope. That's a sh*t ton of pressure to carry!
 
I have a feeling Vingegaard is done for the season actually and by that i mean no vuelta. Have no sources just have a terrible feeling that its worse than we think, I hope im wrong. Prayers up for the lad.
Initially him lying at the roadside nearly motionless looked very worrying.

It only got overshadowed because Vine looked even more horrific. That seems to have been not as bad as feared.

Medical stuff instantly surrounded Vingegaard as well.
 
I still don't want to take part in the guesswork about Jonas' future in neither long - nor short terms.

Still just have to deal with facts.

Quite soon after his crash we got the news of a pneumothorax in addition to a broken sternum, collarbone and ribs.

A pneumothorax may be possible for a sub 40yo to fully recover from, but can also be more complicated.

Just like we know the difference between a simple break and a complicated break.

In any case, this requires maximum rest so soon after, and for me it is obviously logical that nothing be announced about guesswork, as everything is of course still very uncertain at yet such early stages of recovery.

Too early to state whether he'll be ready for Le Tour just in time or if this was a defining crash for his career, just like in Froome's and Ala's cases, or something in between.

It's been mentioned many times before and you can look it up yourself, but the lazy ones would obviously rather whine for more salt on their popcorn while they wait for the king?

Kind of silly, isn't it?
 
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A pneumothorax may be possible for a sub 40yo to fully recover from, but can also be more complicated.

In any case, this requires maximum rest so soon after, and for me it is obviously logical that nothing be announced about guesswork, as everything is of course still very uncertain at yet such early stages of recovery.

Too early to state whether he'll be ready for Le Tour just in time or if this was a defining crash for his career, just like in Froome's and Ala's cases, or something in between.
Very good post and I agree 100%. All that matters now is he needs to be given all the time he needs so everything can be done right, not pressured into situation which will harm him. (which someone argue jumbo did too roglic, i have no merrits of knowing any of this so might not be the case at all)

I just know theyve gotten a new sponsor and since im in corporate myself i know they dont always seem eye to eye with whats necessarily the best in all cases and have their own objective. Purely speculative and nonsense 99% most likely in this case.

This is the part i hope sincerely above all hope will not be the case. It would suck so hard for everyone who loves cycling imo.
 
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I don’t know how it is elsewhere but in the USA if Vingegaard didn’t want his parents to know his health and status they’d never find out. I would assume other countries have HIPAA laws and regulations. That doesn’t make it any better but if those are his wishes that’s what he wants.
I understand that the hospital itself is bound to keep patient's status a secret - that's probably a thing in pretty much all developed world. What I was talking about is keeping those close to him in the loop by those who are aware of his status. It's also understandable to a degree that his wife/team wouldn't disclose his status to his parents if there was some sort of feud between them. But if that was the case, I doubt the father would go public complaining he doesn't know what's going on. He would probably acknowledge their relationship is at a point where he doesn't get updated with his son's health condition.

And as far as I know, his parents travel around France to support their son during TdF. I don't know - perhaps being a parent makes it impossible for me to objectively asses the situation, but it just doesn't seem right to me...