Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard: The Wizard of Visma

[Froome]

Brutal.

A bit disappointing, salvarini would do better by saying "THE GOAT!" instead of "brutal".

 

[Samu Cuenca]

A bit disappointing, salvarini would do better by saying "THE GOAT!" instead of "brutal".

It would have been funny if Pogačar had posted GOAT in the comments.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So what's the timetable now?

01.05

Grischa: Jonas started training with an intensity of 1 w/kg on a stationary bike. Most importantly he's healthy now. Hopefully he'll be back for the next season.

01.06

Grischa: Jonas is able to train with intensities higher than 1 w/kg and overtook a grandpa on a climb yesterday! No Tour of course but Vuelta isn't ruled out.

26.06

Grischa: Jonas reached some decent numbers during recent tests. We decided to take him as a superdomestique of Sepp. We treat it as pre-Vuelta preparation, no hopes for the GC.

21.07

Grischa: Jonas, show the world who's the strongest!

 

[Froome]

The Tour looks like an impossible dream which will come too early but there will be plenty of idle 'will he won't he' speculation in the meantime. The Vuelta could be a realistic target though and if he makes a full recovery he would be a big favourite to win it this year.

I don't rule him out yet for the Tour (at least until the team says he can't do the Tour), because 2 months and half is still a significant time. Let's see how he recover and how fast he can go to the turbo trainer.

 

[johnymax]

Imagine he doesn't make Le Tour, but can recover to appear at La Vuelta at full strength. Worst season in cycling history?

Best season ever if Rogla wins Le Tour. It'll bring joy to people all over the world.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Best season ever if Rogla wins Le Tour. It'll bring joy to people all over the world.

It may be Rogla's best chance since Tour 2020 and best till retirement. If he's able to prepare optimally and avoid crashes, that is.

 

[Froome]

It may be Rogla's best chance since Tour 2020, If he's able to prepare optimally and avoid setbacks.

Maybe Roglic winning the Tour 2020, is the only way of having the return of @CyclistAbi 😕

 

[bNator]

Maybe Roglic winning the Tour 2020, is the only way of having the return of @CyclistAbi 😕

What happened to them?

 

[Froome]

What happened to them?

I hope nothing happened. I just noticed that he hasn't appeared on the forum for a while.

 

[Elos Anjos]

What happened to them?

I know what happened, but I´ll likely get banned if I say it.

 

[bNator]

I know what happened, but I´ll likely get banned if I say it.

Sounds intriguing 🤨 not to encourage you to get banned, of course…

I mean I know he has a tendency to disappear for weeks if there’s nothing going on on the Rog front. So @Froome I wouldn’t worry too much, you’ll get your arch-nemesis back sooner or later…

 

[DNP-Old]

Best season ever if Rogla wins Le Tour. It'll bring joy to people all over the world.

Low hanging fruit, gonna have to do better than this.

 

[theyoungest]

What's talent supposed to mean here? I mean, doesn't everyone agree that Vingegaard is the better long duration, high elevation climber, especially in hot weather, while Pogacar has a wider range of strengths, incuding explosivity?

Vingegaard's Tour wins are mostly attributed to his team, and Pogi's to himself. That's sort of what I was getting at. And that includes Jumbo's almost monk-like preparation on altitude. But that may not actually be the decisive factor.

I guess we'll see this year, if Vingegaard still makes it to the Tour... even the staunchest Pogi fans would have to agree that Vingo's preparation was far from ideal, if he still manages to win there are no arguments left (who am I kidding, then it will be because Pogi raced the Giro before)

 

[bNator]

Low hanging fruit, gonna have to do better than this.

MvdP has had a couple of those what you would call low hanging fruits this season and no one seems to mind that much. To the contrary, I’ve heard people proclaiming him top racer of his generation.

If Rogla wins, he will have beaten Pog, Remco and a bunch of other worthy opponents at the tender age of almost 35. He will have been the second oldest TdF winner ever and the oldest in the last 100 years. Low hanging fruit indeed 🤣

 

[DNP-Old]

MvdP has had a couple of those what you would call low hanging fruits this season and no one seems to mind that much. To the contrary, I’ve heard people proclaiming him top racer of his generation.

If Rogla wins, he will have beaten Pog, Remco and a bunch of other worthy opponents at the tender age of almost 35. He will have been the second oldest TdF winner ever and the oldest in the last 100 years. Low hanging fruit indeed 🤣

I was actually referring to johnnymax level of instigating, but cool to see this got to you.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Most definitely a worse prep than Pog in 2023 if he decides to race. Prolly not even comparable.

Looks grim I must admit, but bike riders are insane, so why rule anything out. Hope he makes it. Dont really care about the race in Spain, thats an afterthought atm

 

[Netserk]

Keeping the closed poll, not changing the title of the thread, but instead making the thumbnail his hospital picture ...

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Keeping the closed poll, not changing the title of the thread, but instead making the thumbnail his hospital picture ...

Well I can't remove the poll.

 

[bNator]

I was actually referring to johnnymax level of instigating, but cool to see this got to you.

You certainly had me fooled… well done!

 

[Lequack]

Chris Horner's take

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-tYDr0erYQ

 

[Nick2413]

This will end up being a more captivating storyline than the entire Giro

 

[Froome]

Sounds intriguing 🤨 not to encourage you to get banned, of course…

I mean I know he has a tendency to disappear for weeks if there’s nothing going on on the Rog front. So @Froome I wouldn’t worry too much, you’ll get your arch-nemesis back sooner or later…

My arch-nemesis but always friendly and very polite. He never loses composure.

 

[Froome]

This will end up being a more captivating storyline than the entire Giro

It wouldn't me surprise that Visma does some bluff with Vingegaard until the Tour, if things work well for him.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Well I can't remove the poll.

I can. Do you want me to?

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Send Kuss to the Tour as main GC guy and have Vingegaard focus fully on the Vuelta. A specifically prepared Vingegaard that isnt handcuffed by Kuss at the Vuelta would be great to see and ats some variety to his palmares.