Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

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Elos Anjos said:
You and @Unterlenkerfahrend have some issues and it's not up to me to straight them out. So please, do move on with your life 🙂

Regardless there's no denying that in the very thread of Vingegaard he has not been assigned a Star Wars character perhaps says all there is to know about his lack of charisma. As for me, I think Gollum from LOTR fits quite well.
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Oh, come on! Seriously!


I mean, Gollum has a way more compelling character. His backstory alone makes him more interesting. He is a complex and tragic character who at times has amazing charisma. Don't insult poor Smeagol
 
Ripper said:
Oh, come on! Seriously!


I mean, Gollum has a way more compelling character. His backstory alone makes him more interesting. He edtis a complex and tragic character who at times has amazing charisma. Don't insult poor Smeagol
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But much more interesting in the books than in the films, IMO.
 
Potomac said:
This is so effing weird.

If you could choose to be any star wars character everyone would choose to be Darth Vader

You know it's true.
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Ok. So you come in here, acting like you "know Star Wars" but you can't even handle basic 101 Star Wars references?

The correct syntax would be:

Search your feelings. you know it to be true.
 
Sciatic said:
Ugh, that’s something I really dislike in American sports media coverage of the non-mainstream sports they have to have come back from some “challenging” hardship or setback to be worthy of their star status and interesting enough to hook viewers and readers.

We will see the absolute worst of that kind of thing in the Olympics coverage this July.
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Sorry we like to see our founding myth reflected back to ad infinitum. It’s the only outlet grown American men have to cry (or had before Gen Z).
 
Elos Anjos said:
Hmm...no, I don't slamm Vingo because he "took" whatever from Roglic.
Although I'm Portuguese, I'm not a simpleton peasant.
Vingo won every race I can remember fair and square.
It's just he seems very hollow. The second coming of robotic Froome. Noone of it matters for racing though, but fans usually end up cheering for those more flamboyant or empathic riders.
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It's all subjective, what one might find "flamboyant and empathetic", another ridiculous and repugnant. Vingegaard won his Tours with a strength and bravura that simply contrasts with his meekness and reticence during interviews. Pogi tries to be the good grandson, Vingegaard the avuncular family man. I'd say Jonas' performance in the Tour TT last year was as flamboyant and emphatic as you get. By contrast, the way Pogi demolished the recent Giro was totally robotic and monotonous, without a shred of drama.
 
Actually Pogi is young Anakin Skywalker, that's how it is, sad but true. Remco is young Obi-Wan Kenobi. Qui-Gon Jinn aka Geraint Thomas needs to avoid Darth Maul (Vingegaard) for his own safety. :grimacing:
 
memyselfandI said:
Is Sepp Kuss going to the Tour?

If he is, his role could be really remarkable, splitted leadership with Jonas? Kuss could give some room for Vingo in first stages to grow into the full strength , putting some pressure for example against Pogi who may be cautious in first half, because he doesn't know how his body takes two gt's back to back. Or Jonas (and VWA?) supporting Sepp in second half if he can't stay in GC early losing final game?

I think this is interesting strategic setting and how for example Roglic and Evenepoel smell this and try to benefit for themselves.
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I think you are enormously overrating Kuss
 
Extinction said:
It's all subjective, what one might find "flamboyant and empathetic", another ridiculous and repugnant. Vingegaard won his Tours with a strength and bravura that simply contrasts with his meekness and reticence during interviews. Pogi tries to be the good grandson, Vingegaard the avuncular family man. I'd say Jonas' performance in the Tour TT last year was as flamboyant and emphatic as you get. By contrast, the way Pogi demolished the recent Giro was totally robotic and monotonous, without a shred of drama.
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I love the way you make it sound like the Giro was Pogacar's fault, rather than the revelation of capitulation in the face of risk management.
 
Oldermanish said:
I love the way you make it sound like the Giro was Pogacar's fault, rather than the revelation of capitulation in the face of risk management.
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Not at all, I was merely pointing out the subjectivity of saying Pogacar's feats are more "flamboyant and emphatic". To others Vingegaard has been no less spectacular.
 
Extinction said:
Not at all, I was merely pointing out the subjectivity of saying Pogacar's feats are more "flamboyant and emphatic". To others Vingegaard has been no less spectacular.
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to most ppl vingegaard achievements hasnt come without a asterisk attached to it. Beating a injured pogacar and what not its always been a asterisk to it so as flamboyant couldnt be further from the reality for me atleast.

Not taking anything away from the guy, its just is what it is aswell but for most ppl saying hes flamboyant is a big stretch :sweatsmile:
 
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velaso montador said:
to most ppl vingegaard achievements hasnt come without a asterisk attached to it. Beating a injured pogacar and what not its always been a asterisk to it so as flamboyant couldnt be further from the reality for me atleast.

Not taking anything away from the guy, its just is what it is aswell but for most ppl saying hes flamboyant is a big stretch :sweatsmile:
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Sure, but his TT performance in last year's Tour was crushing, even had Pogacar not had the injury. Whereas in 2022, when Pog had no such injury before the Tour, he simply was outpowered by the Dane
 
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It gets funnier and funnier with the opinions from here and there on competing teams trying to put a pressure ball on Vingegaard already stating him as the big favourite, when no one knows anything yet, not even Vingegaard himself.

Not even the slightly heavier bold-minded once-a-year viewers of cycling really believe it, not the ones I've spoken with, nor even my 86-year-old aunt, who is a die-hard Jonas fan.

But fine with a bit of nonsense and gossip as a warm-up. It's cozy.
 
Pretty sure he will be ready for the tour.
He had a training ride on 5h 30m this tuesday in Tignes.

www.wielerflits.be

Haalt titelverdediger Jonas Vingegaard de Tour? "Hij weet het zelf nog niet eens"

Haalt hij het of haalt hij het niet? Jonas Vingegaard is nog een twijfelgeval voor de Tour de France (29 juni-21 juli) na zijn zware val in de Ronde van het Baskenland, maar bereidt zich momenteel wel voor op de Tour. De voorbije weken waren er hoopgevende berichten, maar zijn trainer Tim...
www.wielerflits.be www.wielerflits.be
 
FanBoi said:
Pretty sure he will be ready for the tour.
He had a training ride on 5h 30m this tuesday in Tignes.

www.wielerflits.be

Haalt titelverdediger Jonas Vingegaard de Tour? "Hij weet het zelf nog niet eens"

Haalt hij het of haalt hij het niet? Jonas Vingegaard is nog een twijfelgeval voor de Tour de France (29 juni-21 juli) na zijn zware val in de Ronde van het Baskenland, maar bereidt zich momenteel wel voor op de Tour. De voorbije weken waren er hoopgevende berichten, maar zijn trainer Tim...
www.wielerflits.be www.wielerflits.be
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He is good to go!

3rd Tour win is on the horizon. No problem.
 
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