Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

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Side-note: I always knew storks were real but because they are rare in the U.S. and I’ve never seen one, they still always seemed more like fairy tale creatures than something on a bird list. Then I drove through rural Lithuania this summer and saw 4-5 dozen. What a surprise that was! But none were carrying human babies ;)

They are now rather common in Slovenia and often they are seen carrying babies. Especially in cardboard form.

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Big four.
 
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The stork brothers. From left to right, good old primy, happy to still be there, but closest to the edge and falling down (again), then the goat teddy, regal, just behind him Vinny, clearly planning on beating teddy (again) next year and then remmy, the short fat one, but don’t give 5 meters, or you won’t see him again before the finish.
 
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The stork brothers. From left to right, good old primy, happy to still be there, but closest to the edge and falling down (again), then the goat teddy, regal, just behind him Vinny, clearly planning on beating teddy (again) next year and then remmy, the short fat one, but don’t give 5 meters, or you won’t see him again before the finish.
Ha!
 
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Sorry for continuing to go off-topic but since we're talking about it... Roglic is a risk taker. A couple of days ago, I read an old article in Slovenian media, where a story was posted how he was known for walking on fences of his hotel balconies when he was in lower categories. I think his lack of fear does contribute to crashing more often...

But to get at leat partially back to this topic, Jonas seems like a pretty bad bike handler to me (based on some videos of him trying to ride without hands) while Roglic can do wheelies on his road bike while clipped in. Yet Jonas has much better crash statistics than Roglic which means being careful/alert might be the most deciding factor for staying crash-free, more than being a good bike handler.
 
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Sorry for continuing to go off-topic but since we're talking about it... Roglic is a risk taker. A couple of days ago, I read an old article in Slovenian media, where a story was posted how he was known for walking on fences of his hotel balconies when he was in lower categories. I think his lack of fear does contribute to crashing more often...

But to get at leat partially back to this topic, Jonas seems like a pretty bad bike handler to me (based on some videos of him trying to ride without hands) while Roglic can do wheelies on his road bike while clipped in. Yet Jonas has much better crash statistics than Roglic which means being careful/alert might be the most deciding factor for staying crash-free, more than being a good bike handler.
It could definitely be more of a personality thing contributing to it.
 
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Sorry for continuing to go off-topic but since we're talking about it... Roglic is a risk taker. A couple of days ago, I read an old article in Slovenian media, where a story was posted how he was known for walking on fences of his hotel balconies when he was in lower categories. I think his lack of fear does contribute to crashing more often...

But to get at leat partially back to this topic, Jonas seems like a pretty bad bike handler to me (based on some videos of him trying to ride without hands) while Roglic can do wheelies on his road bike while clipped in. Yet Jonas has much better crash statistics than Roglic which means being careful/alert might be the most deciding factor for staying crash-free, more than being a good bike handler.
The "ride without hands" thing has become a bit ridiculous. It has nothing to do with his bike handling. In fact in the previous two Tours it became clear that technically Vingegaard is actually quite good. In the time trials he took quite a bit of risk, not crazy, but certainly on the edge. And during the race, Pogacar tried to drop him a couple of times on the descents but he followed with ease (in fact Pogi nearly crashed himself, after which Vingo waited for him).

This year his confidence on the bike was (understandably) not very high, so I don't think you can use this year's Tour as evidence of anything. We'll see next year if he can return to his best, both physically and mentally.
 
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The "ride without hands" thing has become a bit ridiculous. It has nothing to do with his bike handling. In fact in the previous two Tours it became clear that technically Vingegaard is actually quite good. In the time trials he took quite a bit of risk, not crazy, but certainly on the edge. And during the race, Pogacar tried to drop him a couple of times on the descents but he followed with ease (in fact Pogi nearly crashed himself, after which Vingo waited for him).
What do you mean by nearly?
 
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The "ride without hands" thing has become a bit ridiculous. It has nothing to do with his bike handling. In fact in the previous two Tours it became clear that technically Vingegaard is actually quite good. In the time trials he took quite a bit of risk, not crazy, but certainly on the edge. And during the race, Pogacar tried to drop him a couple of times on the descents but he followed with ease (in fact Pogi nearly crashed himself, after which Vingo waited for him).

This year his confidence on the bike was (understandably) not very high, so I don't think you can use this year's Tour as evidence of anything. We'll see next year if he can return to his best, both physically and mentally.
His second stage win in O Gran Camino this year showed how well he descends when on top. While the inability of Castrillo to follow him on the descent can be down to Castrillo's lack of skills, it's worth noting that Vingegaard distanced all chasers on the descent proper, including Tarling.
 
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"Jonas does not like the idea of having to return to the Tour and finish second," Maassen told BT. "He wants to be the best and has to work very hard to get better, and it will be a challenge because if he stays at the same level, he probably won't be able to beat Tadej Pogačar anymore."

Interesting, didn't expect that to be honest.
 
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