Podium position is reasonable to expect, for Jonas, beyond that it's anyone's guess. For sure both Visma and Jonas will prepare good. Attrition and fatigue is something they plan to inflict plenty. Likely no other team will do that as much as them.
No. Pogacar wasn´t more professional in theU23s than Vingegaard.
Pogacar's team wasn´t better than Coloquick. In fact, it was a much worse team in UCI ranking.
UAE signed him after the Course de Paix he won. But until then, he hadn't had better professional training or material than Vingegaard, nor a better contract.
That same year Visma signed Vingegaard for 2019.
Both moved to a professional team the same year, although Pogacar was younger, but his amateur career was with a slovenian continental teams.
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“Podium position” is a funny way of saying 1st is a win, 2nd a defeat. Pogacar and Vingegaard barring crashes or sickness will again be unreachable for the rest. They have shown this for 4 years now and does not seem like they lost their level quite yet.
Looks awesome. In that sense, cyclist is actually a dream job. Riding around beautiful sceneries, burning enough calories to eat a lot.
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Since he is leaving Visma next year, this decision is a bit strange. However, if he had any problem inside Visma, he would be in the Tour.
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“Variation is also important in a career every now and then” – Benoot reveals why he is training separately from Vingegaard and Visma ahead of Tour de France
While the rest of Team Visma | Lease a Bike are gathered at their high-altitude training camp in Tignes, one key Tour de France selection is notably absent: Tiesj Benoot. The 31-year-old Belgian is ta...
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Vingegaard got a glass of delicious emptiness while demanding that Campenaerts ate the food for him. "Just imagine you're one of those altitude tents you used to live in and that limiting my calorie intake is the same as limiting the concentration of oxygen around me when I sleep. Your sacrifice will only make me stronger".
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Fortunately i can't complain about job, but being a professional rider and doing those altitude training camps in the alps is probably awesome.Looks awesome. In that sense, cyclist is actually a dream job. Riding around beautiful sceneries, burning enough calories to eat a lot.
I also have some jealousy about the people who practice cycling and live near the alps.
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Tullet deserves more a spot in the Tour than benoot at this point.Since he is leaving Visma next year, this decision is a bit strange. However, if he had any problem inside Visma, he would be in the Tour.
“Variation is also important in a career every now and then” – Benoot reveals why he is training separately from Vingegaard and Visma ahead of Tour de France
While the rest of Team Visma | Lease a Bike are gathered at their high-altitude training camp in Tignes, one key Tour de France selection is notably absent: Tiesj Benoot. The 31-year-old Belgian is ta...
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Benoot is more complete even if Tullet might be a better climber however this decision is very strange, specially since he is leaving the team. It's not like he couldn't bring his family to Tignes.
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Apparently he already did this in the past.
WVA, Campenaerts and Affini are enough outside of the climbs. One more climber like tullet would fit well, but whatever, it is not that important, since the Tour will not be decided by who have the strongest team.
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My fat a$$ would pick the cake every time.
Vingegaard still going with the sleeveless top. I wonder what they’ll say the purpose is.
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Those sandwiches we can make will be just right after a long ride.
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Baring crashes or illnesses, 1st and 2nd is the only realistic thing to expect.
It's been proven once again in Dauphine.
I don't agree with that and IMHO it won't be 1st and 2nd in between Pogi and Jonas at the Tour 2025.
Anyway, we'll see.
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Crashes, illnesses or other bad luck can happen to them at any time. Other than that they are pretty big favorites to make top2 for the 5th (!) time in a row.
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If you instead say 6 times in a row then Rogla is already included, presumably two times. We'll see.
If you instead say 6 times in a row then Rogla is already included, presumably two times. We'll see.
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So if there are no crashes or illnesses who is gonna beat any of them?
And most importantly, based on what?
I mean, if we are acting like this, a question, what would Rogličes result at the Tour, from 2021 to 2024 most likely be like, not involving crashes or illness? Indeed.
Anyway, looking forward to it.
In 2020, Roglic didn´t have accidents andhe was defeated by a 20 years neo-proffesional Pogacar.
But he would´ve beaten a better Pogacar and Vingegaard, considering that in 2023 Jumbo sent Roglic to the Giro because Jumbo already considered Vingegaard superior to Roglic
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So your main point is that someone will crash (just because "it's time" statistically) and that's why they won't be 1st and 2nd?
Then I agree.
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No, that was not my point. My point was Roglič, without crashes or illness, as that is the criteria you set, would by now likely have around 5 Tour podium positions. Note that at minimum, meaning some of it would likely be equal or higher then what Rogla already achieved at the Tour in the past. On top of that no, i don't feel Pogi or Jonas need to get injured, for Rogla to beat them, this is something others are spreading, not me. I thought Remco will be closer at Dauphiné, he had some issues with crashes and pollen, so there is that. Anyway, time to bring out the big guns.
No, that was not my point. My point was Roglič, without crashes or illness, as that is the criteria you set, would by now likely have around 5 Tour podium positions. Note that at minimum, meaning some of it would likely be equal or higher then what Rogla already achieved at the Tour in the past. On top of that no, i don't feel Pogi or Jonas need to get injured, for Rogla to beat them, this is something others are spreading, not me. I thought Remco will be closer at Dauphiné, he had some issues with crashes and pollen, so there is that. Anyway, time to bring out the big guns.
Data seems to suggest that not only Jonas but all other teams are substantially behind this season, compared not only to Pogi but to the UAE as a whole:
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