Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Mayomaniac]

Can he beat the legendary performance of Chris Froome in the 2013 USA pro challenge? It included dropping over 3 minutes in a 16 kilometer 3% average MTT.

Well, that was indeed a HC performance, Vintage (aka pre-2011) Froome style!

 

[Lequack]

I am expecting a Remco at worlds type performance.

 

[Bonimenier]

So is Vingegaard now the favourite for le Vélo d'Or?

 

[Andy schleck]

So is Vingegaard now the favourite for le Vélo d'Or?

He should be. He won the Tour.

 

[tobydawq]

He should be. He won the Tour.

He should not.

 

[KZD]

He should be. He won the Tour.

Since when Tour > LBL, Vuelta and World Championships?

 

[BigCoward]

He should be. He won the Tour.

Stop it. Even if he wins Lombardy he shouldn't win.

 

[tobydawq]

Since when Tour > LBL, Vuelta and World Championships?

He also won the Drôme Classic.

Which definitely beats the hell out of San Sebastián, Volta ao Algarve, Tour of Norway and bronze at WCTT.

 

[KZD]

He also won the Drôme Classic.

Which definitely beats the hell out of San Sebastián, Volta ao Algarve, Tour of Norway and bronze at WCTT.

Yes, Drôme Classic the elusive sixth monument

 

[Red Rick]

Lombardia would give a shout if he'd had a better spring for me. But he didn't.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Lombardia would give a shout if he'd had a better spring for me. But he didn't.

Didn't he podium T-A (or one of the major one week races)? Plus second in Dauphne.

I think he takes it with Lombardia. It wasn't an average Tour. He beat Tadej Freakin Pogacar, a dominant rider in his prime.

 

[Andy schleck]

Since when Tour > LBL, Vuelta and World Championships?

The Tour is the Tour. Nothing is more important than that.
Hinault, indurain, anquetil, mercx are recognized in every place in the world by the number of tours the they won. Like armstrong even after what happened.

 

[Andy schleck]

Remco would prefer to win one tour than vuelta, WC and LBL.

 

[tobydawq]

The Tour is the Tour. Nothing is more important than that.
Hinault, indurain, anquetil, mercx are recognized in every place in the world by the number of tours the they won. Like armstrong even after what happened.

Lol. So a guy could won five monuments and become world champion in a year and he wouldn't beat the Tour winner in your opinion?

 

[Red Rick]

Didn't he podium T-A (or one of the major one week races)? Plus second in Dauphne.

I think he takes it with Lombardia. It wasn't an average Tour. He beat Tadej Freakin Pogacar, a dominant rider in his prime.

2nd in TA and Dauphine. But he didn't win them.

I don't think 2nd in those races warrants much consideration, but winning them could sway some difference if you add it to the fact that the Tour is simply a bigger race than the Vuelta. But I guess you can also argue TA or Dauphine is canceled out by CSS.

 

[Andy schleck]

Lol. So a guy could won five monuments and become world champion in a year and he wouldn't beat the Tour winner in your opinion?

What you would choose?
One tour or LBL+WC+Vuelta?
I would choose cleary winning the Tour.

 

[sir fly]

What are you arguing about, folks?!
No match for Annemiek this season.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

What you would choose?
One tour or LBL+WC+Vuelta?
I would choose cleary winning the Tour.

No shot. A monument, the biggest race that isn’t a monument and basically is treated like one, plus a GT beats out just a GT, albeit the biggest one. Some of you are so stuck up on the Tour.

 

[gregrowlerson]

No shot. A monument, the biggest race that isn’t a monument and basically is treated like one, plus a GT beats out just a GT, albeit the biggest one. Some of you are so stuck up on the Tour.

That settles it. Especially when looking at your profile pic

 

[KZD]

The Tour is the Tour. Nothing is more important than that.
Hinault, indurain, anquetil, mercx are recognized in every place in the world by the number of tours the they won. Like armstrong even after what happened.

But no one is denying that the Tour is the more important race of the calendar just that its more important than LBL, La Vuelta and The WCRR together (3 of the 9 major races of a non Olympic season).

And this is a cycling forum so we care about actual results during a season not just what most people around think and I am fairly sure many of those still don't know who Vingegård, Thomas or Bernal are.

 

[Jeppeb]

Lol. So a guy could won five monuments and become world champion in a year and he wouldn't beat the Tour winner in your opinion?

And he would still trade it all for a Tour win, dont kid yourself.

 

[Red Rick]

First, nobody asked Evenepoel, and he'd very likely say no. Secondly, that position would basically make the Velo d'Or redundant, cause you can just hand it out to the TdF winner every year.

Every year someone wins the Tour. That doesn't make the Tour winner the most standout rider of the peloton every year.

 

[Jeppeb]

First, nobody asked Evenepoel, and he'd very likely say no. Secondly, that position would basically make the Velo d'Or redundant, cause you can just hand it out to the TdF winner every year.

Every year someone wins the Tour. That doesn't make the Tour winner the most standout rider of the peloton every year.

Indeed, that wouldn't be fair or accurate. I do also think Evenepoel deserves it. But i still believe a Tour win would be of more value than those victories combined in terms of publicity and personal ambition as a pro rider.

 

[Andy schleck]

But no one is denying that the Tour is the more important race of the calendar just that its more important than LBL, La Vuelta and The WCRR together (3 of the 9 major races of a non Olympic season).

And this is a cycling forum so we care about actual results during a season not just what most people around think and I am fairly sure many of those still don't know who Vingegård, Thomas or Bernal are.

Besides what i said, vingegaard beat the great tadej pogacar, and with some of the best performances we saw in this century, in the mountains. That's great results.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Indeed, that wouldn't be fair or accurate. I do also think Evenepoel deserves it. But i still believe a Tour win would be of more value than those victories combined in terms of publicity and personal ambition as a pro rider.

Publicity, most likely. Personal ambition, I highly doubt it - Remco is Belgian, Liege means A LOT, especially winning in that fashion after a mediocre spring. The Vuelta? Half of the forum for some strange reason doubted he could ever win a GT, and so did everyone else, so thats obviously extremely big as well, and a Worlds title alá Eddy? No way youre taking a TdF win instead of three of these big wins.