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Monsi

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I think his season is over after this Vuelta. I will be surprised if he turns up for the ECRR. I'm also really skeptical of him attempting a Giro-Tour double (4 GTs in under a year) next year even though he said he might go for the Giro next year if he wins the Vuelta this year.
 
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Cycling111 said:
However, Almeida seemed weaker today. It's disappointing that he didn't try.

He's decided to make his options a time trial, in which Almeida clearly beat him in 2023 and Bola del Mundo.
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I think today his body “decided” for him. Visma set him up perfectly but after that he could only follow.
 
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Red Rick said:
Guys I for one I'm still absolutely livid he's not racing the WC after this. He would 100% do so well
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Thats not the problem. The problem is he said he'd race, only to hold the federation hostage and briefly mentioning he wouldn't take part just before the Vuelta.

I think it was obvious from the get-go that he wouldn't stand a chance. Pogacar is the very best rider in history on such courses, and Jonas himself is very mediocre. so yeah.
 
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Monsi said:
I think his season is over after this Vuelta. I will be surprised if he turns up for the ECRR. I'm also really skeptical of him attempting a Giro-Tour double (4 GTs in under a year) next year even though he said he might go for the Giro next year if he wins the Vuelta this year.
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The Giro-Tour double is different because there you have the easy grand tour first ("easy" being the one where he's not up against Pogacar).
 
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Likely fatigue from the Tour and raise of UAE play a substantial role, on why Jonas can't really ride away from the bunch, or to win more stages. His team is too much aligned to even try. Lets not forget UAE won half of the stages at this Vuelta, they leveled up substantially. Jonas i guess can be happy that mostly Almeida must do his thing alone, no real support from the team. For that i feel that he is strong enough, to not get dropped, responding to half assed attempts.
 
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theyoungest said:
He's not exactly looking strong. All it takes is a good day by Almeida in the TT and another very lacklustre performance by Vingegaard and the tables are turned. I think it's possible. Almeida isn't exactly flying either, but he doesn't have the Tour in his legs.
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Given that the TT is now only 12 k, obviously Almeida isn't going to close a 50 sec gap.
 
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No matter how strong or weak he truly was today, or whatever direction the wind blew, he rode very poorly tactically today for the stage win. Almeida was surprisingly bad, but I guess Vingegaard just wants to minimise risk of overextending himself and ensure he wins the overall. Meh.
 
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Oldman said:
The optimistic, survivor side of me thinks he's endured 2 seasons of accumulative injuries and tried to race through it. Given enough quality rest and training we may see his dominance again. He'll need that to face down the increasing group of 20 to 24 yo. riders showing the next generation. So will Pogacar.
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He was in fact dominant this year at the Tour-/if Pogacar wasn’t there we would have been talking about how alien Vingegaard’s performance was in putting able to drop everyone at will, and winning by over 5 minutes. It’s just that Pogacar has changed the reference frame for anyone else.
 
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theyoungest said:
The Giro-Tour double is different because there you have the easy grand tour first ("easy" being the one where he's not up against Pogacar).
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It's not only the Giro-Tour double. It's that he's also had the Tour-Vuelta double the previous season, which would mean he'll tackle four Grand Tours in a span of a year.
 
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Sciatic said:
I think today his body “decided” for him. Visma set him up perfectly but after that he could only follow.
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I think there were some serious headwinds on some of those switchbacks. A rare situation that penalized those that weren't tight in the lead pack. Saw some guys riding in the left side gutter trying to get shelter and wondered what was going on until I saw that finishing banner.
 
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Oldman said:
I think there were some serious headwinds on some of those switchbacks. A rare situation that penalized those that weren't tight in the lead pack. Saw some guys riding in the left side gutter trying to get shelter and wondered what was going on until I saw that finishing banner.
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Good point, I noticed that too.
 
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Visma is just doing what they were doing with Yates in the Giro. Save energy as much as possible for the last stage. Difference is that they are already in the lead which makes it a bit easier. Looking forward to his ITT. If he does one like at the TDF, Almeida has a real shot
 
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Berniece said:
Visma is just doing what they were doing with Yates in the Giro. Save energy as much as possible for the last stage. Difference is that they are already in the lead which makes it a bit easier. Looking forward to his ITT. If he does one like at the TDF, Almeida has a real shot
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I'm guessing that's why he didn't take the bait and attack today. Why not save it for the TT.
 
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Berniece said:
Visma is just doing what they were doing with Yates in the Giro. Save energy as much as possible for the last stage. Difference is that they are already in the lead which makes it a bit easier. Looking forward to his ITT. If he does one like at the TDF, Almeida has a real shot
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Jorgenson said after the stage that the plan was to go for the win with Jonas, and it didn't work out. A strong Vingegaard could have taken more than a minute from Joao yesterday and put the race away, especially with all the uncertainty.
 
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