Jumbo - QuickStep merger

[FroomeWagon]

If Roglic leaves Jumbo, how does that effect the new teams finances? I assume that would save them around 4-5M per year? Maybe a boost to Remco and Kuss' salaries?

 

[Valanga]

Visma is a Scandinavian enterprise so Vingegaard obviously has had that pull. Just like Hagenes & Co

They're also active in The Netherlands and in Belgium: https://www.visma.com/countries/belgium
I doubt Visma will care much whether they win with a Dane or a Belgian ;-)

 

[IndianCyclist]

if this merger is happening, then the most logical way would be to create a super team and a normal team. Sell off the top wage guys to other teams. Ala, Roglic and a few others etc. Their wages should be enough to cover the wages of other riders who are on contract. there is no way the entire 20-25 riders +staff can be absorbed into the other teams

 

[Berniece]

if this merger is happening, then the most logical way would be to create a super team and a normal team. Sell off the top wage guys to other teams. Ala, Roglic and a few others etc. Their wages should be enough to cover the wages of other riders who are on contract. there is no way the entire 20-25 riders +staff can be absorbed into the other teams

You can't have 2 teams

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

They're also active in The Netherlands and in Belgium: https://www.visma.com/countries/belgium
I doubt Visma will care much whether they win with a Dane or a Belgian ;-)

Visma is Norwegian (hence why I guess Staune Mittet and Strand Hagenes will not suffer from the potential merger), was created in mid 90s and expanded to Denmark and UK a few years later. Nowadays they are of course in a lot of countries all over Europe and the whole going in as cycling sponsor was to increase the market in BeNeLux countries. Today Scandinavia, Benelux, Central and Eastern-Europe are the target marget.

I agree that it doesn't matter for Visma if a Dane or a Belgian, but I think they from a commercial point of view would prefer a Dane or a Belgian over a Slovenian for example.

 

[joseph89]

If Roglic leaves Jumbo, how does that effect the new teams finances? I assume that would save them around 4-5M per year? Maybe a boost to Remco and Kuss' salaries?

Yes, aswell as receiving a lump sum for releasing Roglic. Roglic's contract termination fee should cover a fair few riders salaries.

Won't help ineos negotiations to sign roglic as they will know what ineos were willing to pay for remco

 

[Gargamel35]

Roglič and Remco to Ineos. Now that would be fun war against Jumbo and UAE.

 

[noob]

Anyone remembers how Remco responded on LRCP podcast when asked if he's gonna be in Quickstep next year?
- Normally, yes.

I thought it was a weird response. First I thought maybe it's his English. But now I think he might've known it too.

I wouldn't be surprised if they all knew.

 

[FroomeWagon]

Roglič and Remco to Ineos. Now that would be fun war against Jumbo and UAE.

That would actually make more sense to me. I think Remco at JV is going find himself in the same situation with Vinge as Roglic is now. At least Roglic is older, so you could see how Remco could eventually move into the #1 slot whereas Vinge is really young and will probably be top dog for a long time.

 

[saunaking]

Anyone remembers how Remco responded on LRCP podcast when asked if he's gonna be in Quickstep next year?
- Normally, yes.

I thought it was a weird response. First I thought maybe it's his English. But now I think he might've known it too.

I wouldn't be surprised if they all knew.

Normally is apparently a throwaway word in Flemish and this is lost in translation.
'Normally yes' just means yes.
Johan Bruyneel addressed this EXACT wording issue on his podcast a month ago

 

[Berniece]

Anyone remembers how Remco responded on LRCP podcast when asked if he's gonna be in Quickstep next year?
- Normally, yes.

I thought it was a weird response. First I thought maybe it's his English. But now I think he might've known it too.

I wouldn't be surprised if they all knew.

Which is why he dropped himself so hard in the Tourmalet stage, as a favour to Kuss for next year. It finally all makes sense.

 

[Escarabajo]

Who cares what Remco said in that interview. The rules of the contract would change if the merger occurs and therefore He can do whatever he wants. Patrick LeFevre knows this and cannot do anything about it.

Who in the right mind would think that all those egos can coexist together? please.

Maybe Remco needs to hurry up:

Ineos Grenadiers take aim at Primoz Roglic transfer

Slovenian reportedly free to leave Jumbo-Visma with Bahrain Victorious, Jayco-AlUla and Movistar also interested

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[joseph89]

Cycling sponsor Vacansoleil declared bankrupt. They sponsor Jumbo-Visma Women.

 

[RedheadDane]

So, last year we got all the people involved with the (then) B&B team, now this ***.
Whoever suddenly got the idea that this could ever be a good idea needs to be fired, out of a cannon! This is Jerome Pineau level of fuckery.

 

[pastronef]

B&B disaster was worse

 

[Lequack]

Cycling sponsor Vacansoleil declared bankrupt. They sponsor Jumbo-Visma Women.

Dutch people are not taking enough holidays?

 

[RedheadDane]

B&B disaster was worse

Really?
With the B&B disaster they lost a sponsor/couldn't attract a sponsor after all.
Here, they had sponsors, and then suddenly someone just went full dumbass!

 

[Faserr]

Dutch people are not taking enough holidays?

According to german highways, no.

 

[Valanga]

Roglič and Remco to Ineos. Now that would be fun war against Jumbo and UAE.

Especially with a Geraint Thomas in there stirring the pot, claiming those two hate each other. Fun times ahead at Ineos!

 

[joseph89]

Really?
With the B&B disaster they lost a sponsor/couldn't attract a sponsor after all.
Here, they had sponsors, and then suddenly someone just went full dumbass!

Vacansoleil just declared bankrupt, Gorillas left them with a €5million budget deficit. Point is we have no idea what their financial situation is.

 

[pastronef]

Really?
With the B&B disaster they lost a sponsor/couldn't attract a sponsor after all.
Here, they had sponsors, and then suddenly someone just went full dumbass!

Pineau lied to the riders and staff and was unavailable until shyt hit the fan. here it's quite late but still doable
they had sponsor just for 1 season. despite winning everything Plugge didn't have a backer for a long project and as some news said the co-sponsor pushed not to be associated with Neom. Lefevere took his chance. the names involved are Soudal and Visma. no mention of Jumbo and Quickstep for 2024, for now.

 

[RedheadDane]

Vacansoleil just declared bankrupt, Gorillas left them with a €5million budget deficit. Point is we have no idea what their financial situation is.

What's Vacansoleil got to do with that? That team folded years ago.

 

[joseph89]

What's Vacansoleil got to do with that? That team folded years ago.

Just my point, you have no idea about Jumbo-Visma's financial situation. They are an active sponsor of the JV womens team.

 

[pastronef]

What's Vacansoleil got to do with that? That team folded years ago.

Vacansoleil is among Jumbo's subsponsor
Gorillas has a partnership with Jumbo but they havent yet paid the 5 millions

 

[RedheadDane]

Just my point, you have no idea about Jumbo-Visma's financial situation. They are an active sponsor of the JV womens team.

So, you're telling me the whole team's financial situation was based on a sponsor that doesn't even appear on the jersey?
And the only solution was to *** with multiple people?