Race Radio said:Klodi got a deal. It cost Armstrong $500,000 to make his issues go away.
that's what Connected/Influential teammates are good for!!! So Klodi will slave his tale off next TDF for his masters LA/JB.
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Race Radio said:Klodi got a deal. It cost Armstrong $500,000 to make his issues go away.
Mellow Velo said:Patrick Sinkewitz put him in the car for the 2006 TDF clinic "road trip"....
Hahaha! Unless by clean you mean "never tested positive".Barnaby said:...Switzerland. Camenzind, Richard, Dufaux, Zulle, Gianetti, Jarmann. Such talent for such a small country......... At least Rominger was clean.
bianchigirl said:Sorry, am I getting this straight? Kloeden is paying 25K to make an investigation go away that, if he's innocent as he claims he is, would uncover nothing against him?
Isn't that like me paying a parking fine I didn't get so I can keep driving?
Alpe d'Huez said:Hahaha! Unless by clean you mean "never tested positive".
agreed. i still don't understand how this german law works. looks like freiburg doctors or any one under the investigation can stop it dead only if they can scrape enough to pay the court. sounds like a legal bribe to me.pedaling squares said:I don't think that this, by itself, is sufficient evidence. You have to take Sinkewitz at his word, and as a doper who is cooperating with officials in exchange for leniency (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,515459,00.html), his word can be questioned. Also consider Patrik's original stance when he tested positive, "Me? Why me? I don't know anything about it. This can't be," (http://velonews.com/article/12808). So he is already on record as a liar.
Common sense tells us that Kloden did exactly what Sinkewitz said he did, but common sense never convicted anyone by itself. All the article told us was what Patrik and his lady said, and that a team staffer corroborated their story to the extent that none of the named people were at the dinner table. I just hope there is more evidence than that, or the poor German public wasted a lot of money on this investigation.
craig1985 said:Then technically so is Lance Armstrong
*hides*
Sorry but you have to count LA himself in doping scandals too.psychlist said:So is Andy Schleck the only person to have shared a TdF podium with LA who has not been caught or implicated in a doping scandal?
python said:agreed. i still don't understand how this german law works. looks like freiburg doctors or any one under the investigation can stop it dead only if they can scrape enough to pay the court. sounds like a legal bribe to me.
craig1985 said:Then technically so is Lance Armstrong
*hides*
Mellow Velo said:So, now it's official. It's all gone away.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kloden-german-prosecutors-agree-to-end-investigation
I find the German attitude incredibly hard to fathom.
On the face of it, they are the most anti-doping hard liners on the planet.
German tv cancels their national tour. All their media coverage pulled from the Tour, due to ongoing doping revelations surrounding the race.
Endless moral preaching in their press.
Yet, when it comes to dishing out justice to an implicated rider, it's a quick back hander to effectively turn a blind eye.
it's a valid point. i have not seen anywhere a clear statement as to what exactly the civil suit was about. if as you say doping was sanctioned by the "team" it would be important to know who was defrauded under the tag "team" in a legal sense - the team management or the corporate tmobile entity. i can see your point but if tmobile corporation pushed the defrauding card i don't see the case being dropped so easily. still, i trust it would be fairly easy to establish if kloeden attended the clinic and received the transfusion. there mustof been more parities to the affair than just sinkewitz.Cobblestones said:For the last time, this is the civil suit. It would have decided whether Kloden defrauded the T mobile team by taking PEDs. This suit was kind of a farce anyway, since most likely, doping was team sanctioned.
It is not the decision whether to ban Kloden or not. That lies with the Swiss Federation who issued Kloden's racing license. Don't blame the German's, blame the Swiss. They haven't gotten their a$$es in gear. I'm sure the Germans (unlike the Spanish in the case of the OP) would like to share their evidence with the Swiss if they'd bother to ask. Or, looking at it from a different angle: why do you think Kloden, Ullrich etc. were racing with a Swiss license, and not a German one?
python said:it's a valid point. i have not seen anywhere a clear statement as to what exactly the civil suit was about. if as you say doping was sanctioned by the "team" it would be important to know who was defrauded under the tag "team" in a legal sense - the team management or the corporate tmobile entity. i can see your point but if tmobile corporation pushed the defrauding card i don't see the case being dropped so easily. still, i trust it would be fairly easy to establish if kloeden attended the clinic and received the transfusion. there mustof been more parities to the affair than just sinkewitz.