Kristoff

[The Hitch]

Re:

Gilbert 2011 all over again.

Good comparison.

 

[mrhender]

Actually this is beyond crazy..

No one is even near him right now... Double is on...

I wonder what they are feeding him at Katusha..

 

[luckyboy]

Nice podium of Mikhailov, Ibarguren and Mertens!
Better luck next time Lagrou/Daneels/De Moor!

 

[hrotha]

To be honest he doesn't strike me as being necessarily stronger than last year. Not that I think last year was normal, though.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

Nice podium of Mikhailov, Ibarguren and Mertens!

lol, indeed.
Experience paying off here.

If Kristoff goes on like this, I foresee Zorzoli paying him a visit.
Kristoff might do a Wiggins next year.

 

[goggalor]

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Hushovd is ridiculously nationalistic and always talks up the other norwegians, calling them all future superstars etc etc and is so happy when they do well.
Kristoff, he's always hated for some reason. Wonder if that says something.

Kristoff sat on his wheel and beat him in the sprint in 2007 Norwegian champs.

 

[red_flanders]

Certainly dominant so far. Seems pretty unlikely to be clean.

 

[ebandit]

belief

lets see how he gets over those flandrian climbs this weekend......................

Mark L

no i don't believe it either................sometimes we get the winner we deserve

was this the most boring vlaanderan ever................?

Mark L

 

[doperhopper]

Re: Re:

Gilbert 2011 all over again.

Good comparison.

I'm afraid this is too good to be true that even doping itself can't explain, I'm adding motorization into the game (btw, was there screening?). He can already do sprint, TT, classics, hills, cobbles...Next year AK goes to Sky, marginally drops 10 kg while increasing power, adds climbing and wins all classics and GTs, new clean Eddy is born (pity he's not French to fulfill Brailsford's prophecy)

 

[Joelsim]

The bloke is as fat as I am, yet he still wins.

 

[SkyTears]

Kristoff
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=4179

Froome
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=5789

let's compare each one 1st, 2nd, 3rd , etc year as a pro

If you exclude 2010 from Froome their evolution is identical

Another donkey to race horse? He was just clean when he started and found magic juice at Katusha? Or a clean late bloomer ?

 

[doperhopper]

Re:

Kristoff
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=4179

Froome
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=5789

let's compare each one 1st, 2nd, 3rd , etc year as a pro

If you exclude 2010 from Froome their evolution is identical

Another donkey to race horse? He was just clean when he started and found magic juice at Katusha? Or a clean late bloomer ?

and don't underestimate norwegian badzillas - once you get rid of it you fly

 

[hrotha]

If you exclude 2010 and the age difference, and every other factor that doesn't fit, they're identical!

 

[red_flanders]

Re:

Kristoff
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=4179

Froome
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=5789

let's compare each one 1st, 2nd, 3rd , etc year as a pro

If you exclude 2010 from Froome their evolution is identical

Another donkey to race horse? He was just clean when he started and found magic juice at Katusha? Or a clean late bloomer ?

Weird, I didn't realize Kristoff had won the Tour de France and was a perennial stage race and GT contender.

Not that I think he's clean, but for crying out loud that's just plain silly.

 

[mrhender]

Is he still a part of Bike pure?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

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If you exclude 2010 and the age difference, and every other factor that doesn't fit, they're identical!

lol.

'lets see what he can do in PR.

 

[maltiv]

Re:

Kristoff
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=4179

Froome
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=5789

let's compare each one 1st, 2nd, 3rd , etc year as a pro

If you exclude 2010 from Froome their evolution is identical

Another donkey to race horse? He was just clean when he started and found magic juice at Katusha? Or a clean late bloomer ?

This is a ridiculous comparison. Check Kristoffs results in the beginning more closely. He was always good in tougher one-day races, and then became progressively better each year. His improvement was very linear, going from a guy who won the bunch sprints behind the winners to actually being able to make the splits. In RVV he was 15th (2012), 4th (2013), 5th (2014) and then 1st this year, for example.

Froome went from a guy who had to hang on to motorbikes to finish mountain stages to a guy who literally a few weeks later dropped everyone with crazy accelerations while talking on the radio.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

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His tt'ing reminds me of this guy:

As comparisons go, that is pretty cryptic.
Does he remind you of anybody with a face or name?

 

[mrhender]

Seems (by his performance) he didn't forget the important "salt-tablets" today...

http://www.tv2.no/a/5840297

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Re: Re:

His tt'ing reminds me of this guy:

As comparisons go, that is pretty cryptic.
Does he remind you of anybody with a face or name?

no, just the cadence and style.

 

[Christopher S]

So, based on a sprint/northern classics rider winning 7-8 sprints in 2.1 and 2.HC races and doing well in *gasp* the northern classics, you've all decided he is abusing performance enhancing drugs? Per your accusations, a good 15-20 riders today should be considered doped as *** aswell, then, given they were within 2,5 minutes after - a difference made by tactical decisions by themselves and others, form, random occurences and natural skill.

Seriously guys, if you want to accuse someone of doping - be my guest. However, you should be able to back it up with facts, concrete indications and a legit and logical train of thought, based on relevant comparisons.

 

[mrhender]

Re:

So, based on a sprint/northern classics rider winning 7-8 sprints in 2.1 and 2.HC races and doing well in *gasp* the northern classics, you've all decided he is abusing performance enhancing drugs? Per your accusations, a good 15-20 riders today should be considered doped as **** aswell, then, given they were within 2,5 minutes after - a difference made by tactical decisions by themselves and others, form, random occurences and natural skill.

Seriously guys, if you want to accuse someone of doping - be my guest. However, you should be able to back it up with facts, concrete indications and a legit and logical train of thought, based on relevant comparisons.

I guess they are considered doping as well...

Or would you think the conservative 10-20% doping percentage from CIRC report is only GT-doping?

Seriously the week Kristoff just had is "not normal" even by clinic standards...

 

[zlev11]

is he doping? probably. is he doing something all of the other contenders aren't? probably not. he had a nice opportunistic win in de Panne on Tuesday, then outsprinted a bunch of 3rd tier sprinters the next day, had what was baiscally a dead heat with Greipel the next day and beat Elia Viviani by 27 seconds in a time trial. he had a really nice opportunistic win today, and was definitely the strongest rider, but to compare him to Froome and his ridiculous transformation at age 27 is absolutely ludicrous. 9th at G-W almost 7 minutes down, 4th at E3 in a 23 man group (outsprinted by Matteo Trentin!), and 2nd in MS-R which suits him down the ground. not even close to anything resembling Froome.

 

[frenchfry]

Re:

Kristoff
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=4179

Froome
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=5789

let's compare each one 1st, 2nd, 3rd , etc year as a pro

If you exclude 2010 from Froome their evolution is identical

Another donkey to race horse? He was just clean when he started and found magic juice at Katusha? Or a clean late bloomer ?

Wasn't there a song about the dawg? Something like "nothing compares 2U"

 

[frenchfry]

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The Norwegan riders are peforming so well because they grew up with fresh air and healthy food. It's the viking myths all over over again...

Must be their custom made pillows stuffed with virgin goose down.