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Libertine Seguros said:Whereas I disagree, and consider that most of that 'marginal gain drivel' has been discarded or at least is no longer talked about, and instead they've got rid of extraneous nonsense and concentrated on how to do better at bike races.
Putting out the best numbers in the world can't help you if you have no tactical sense or are racing the wrong races in the wrong form. It's that that Team Sky have sorted out.
Team Sky are not a revolution, nor are they even a change. They are just another bike racing team, and have developed into a very good one.
Dekker_Tifosi said:Not even wearing skinsuits was a novelty. Theo bos already did that regularly at Rabobank last year.
Libertine Seguros said:To be fair, the PR it generated was almost entirely self-created. Nobody else gave a damn about the Cancer Council Classic, except for the guys probably being paid to be in the break (I'm not saying it wasn't a natural break, but very interesting that it included Armstrong and Pereiro, the 2 TDF winners present, and Evans, the Aussie WC, in a pancake flat crit). The win they got in the TDU proper was also a crit. Then they won the Qatar TTT.
By the time they'd actually won something meaningful (Henderson's win in Paris-Nice after Caisse d'Epargne formed echelons and broke the race up), they were no longer celebrating so egregiously. From the way they celebrated the Cancer Council Classic you'd have thought they'd just won San Remo.
ANdy Hampsten did it way way back in 85.thehog said:Dave Z was wearing skin suits at Paris-Tours circa 09. Nothing new at all.
Besides if you want to bring science to the sport go get an Italian Doctor..... hey WIGGO?
The Hitch said:Mark Cavendish leapfrogs Peter Sagan and Tony Martin into 4th in the world rankings.
Panda Claws said:5th*
There is still Evans.
gingerwallaceafro said:One of the few World Champs in any sport to use the words '**** off' in an interview! What a breath of fresh air he is.
ya I was wondering about that myself. Voeckler, we all know, was doing it for tv time glory, but why was Vac so organised in it's chase when they had a couple guys up the road? weird, did they really think VanHummel was going to beat Cav and Andre? a hard counter, or attack at 3.5k would have been better use of their resources.Echoes said:Hats off to the Vacansoleil and Vöckler. Cav, their leader, should be grateful to them.![]()
oldcrank said:Boy Cav seems to have Farrar psyched out. Are we going to
see Tyler going for long solo breaks in the hope that he can
win a race which Cavendish is in?
CobbleStoner said:ya I was wondering about that myself. Voeckler, we all know, was doing it for tv time glory, but why was Vac so organised in it's chase when they had a couple guys up the road? weird, did they really think VanHummel was going to beat Cav and Andre? a hard counter, or attack at 3.5k would have been better use of their resources.
kind of a frustrating race to watch and too easy for Cav in the final, but kudos to Sky for keeping him upright and in front when needed
Libertine Seguros said:No need for that. He just needs a race with a few hills in it.
Mellow Velo said:Surely, that would be foul air?![]()
Froome19 said:If they didn't try it would have been defeatist.
It would be going along with what cav always says about the other teams giving up.
There's always hope especially with a rising sprinter such as Van hummel
greenedge said:I think Farrar will win ( he has got to be the one of the strongest sprinters here so if any splits happen i think he will make them ).
I'm not considering Greipel as i think his train will be outmuscled this time/ he does not have Hansen/ Roelandts.
Huta could also go well.
hatcher said:there's a good joke about Van Hummel and going uphill in there somewhere, but I can't get it.
