- Jul 23, 2009
Fair enough. But with Armstrong, we had far more to work with than the thoughts that emerged from beneath our tin foil hats. Association with Carmichael, association with Ferrari, O'Reilly/Andreus/Anderson, Simeoni, disposing of medical waste... the list goes on. All of that before the retroactive testing of the 1999 urine samples and all that unfolded thereafter. It was weak as evidence, but more than enough to form a reasonable suspicion. We have none of that with Armstrong conspiring to set up Contador. Nothing but the fact that Armstrong was powerful and jealous, and that isn't enough to make me think that he could persuade the UCI to destroy their present star for the sake of their past star. And, I would think that scientists everywhere would tend to be a bit upset by the attacks on the competence and professionalism of the French labs and their technicians made by Armstrong over the years. Are we assuming that Armstrong also reached into the Cologne lab and persuaded someone to risk his professional reputation for the benefit of some vindictive American who smeared his profession?Maxiton said:I hear what you're saying, but would remind you, first of all, that "deep into conspiracy theories" is the first objection people make when you suggest that LA, his team, a bunch of doctors, a Swiss lab, and the UCI all worked together over seven years to ensure that LA won the Tour without failing a drug test (or without being caught). From non-Clinicians the usual response is, "Come on, you don't really expect me to believe that, do you?"
Behind every human misdeed involving more than one person lies a conspiracy. By definition. So "deep into conspiracy theories" means absolutely zilch.
As for Armstrong complicity in the Contador positive: As someone else explained above, they couldn't have AC going positive while he was on their team, for their own reasons. The following year, when he was on a different team, was a different story. But why then was UCI so slow? For one thing, the UCI is no monolith; one corrupt guy there may not know what another corrupt guy there is doing. Second, AC is a huge figure in pro cycling, arguably second only to Armstrong. So even though you've stuck the knife in him with one hand, it would be important to comfort him and appear to be trying to help him with the other . . . .