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It wasn't just a little extra T on game day, Floyd was on the full program.

Chris Bell left a lot out in that documentary, but I think overall he did a very good job. It's very insightful. I'm hoping in a future version he will have an epilogue stating that after the film was released his brother Mike "Mad Dog" tragically died. Link here.

BTW - Galic Ho is correct on altitude training. For years people thought it was the other way around, so much so "train high, sleep low" was the mantra. People repeated it even after that theory was busted by mountaineers who some years ago figured out it was "train mid, sleep high" that was most effective.
 
karlboss said:
who did the most damage? interesting question, interesting answers. I'd say the festina team. After them, All athletes caught damage a market more than others. I think Tyler and Floyd combined really hurt a growing market of cyclists and fans. The others...just another positive test.

Festina was by far the most damaging because it was the not only one of the first cases of a team doping issue, but it also occured during the biggest stage, the Tour De France. Before then, it was individual cases the came to light. Don't the Festina affair led to the number of hotel raids which sent al lthe Spanish teams home. That Tour only had approx 90 riders finish the race. A ton of big riders were pushed out. Anyone remember who was the Mountain Jersey winner? HE was still an active cyclist last year, Christopher Rinero.

The only thing that saved that Tour was the emergence of a true climber winning the tour for the first time in many years, Marco Pantani. IN particular, it really was 1 stage that saved it, the stage to the Joux Plane.
 
Carl0880 said:
Festina was by far the most damaging because it was the not only one of the first cases of a team doping issue, but it also occured during the biggest stage, the Tour De France. ...

The only thing that saved that Tour was the emergence of a true climber winning the tour for the first time in many years, Marco Pantani. IN particular, it really was 1 stage that saved it, the stage to the Joux Plane.
If my memory doesn't fail me, they did not do the Joux Plane that year. Maybe you meant Les-Deux Alpes. Where Pantani left everyone in the dust, or rain to be more exact.
 
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Carl0880 said:
Festina was by far the most damaging because it was the not only one of the first cases of a team doping issue, but it also occured during the biggest stage, the Tour De France. Before then, it was individual cases the came to light. Don't the Festina affair led to the number of hotel raids which sent al lthe Spanish teams home. That Tour only had approx 90 riders finish the race. A ton of big riders were pushed out. Anyone remember who was the Mountain Jersey winner? HE was still an active cyclist last year, Christopher Rinero.

The only thing that saved that Tour was the emergence of a true climber winning the tour for the first time in many years, Marco Pantani. IN particular, it really was 1 stage that saved it, the stage to the Joux Plane.

Much as I loved watching Pantani, if he is the only thing that saved the tour from a drug scandal we are in trouble.
 
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Coincidentally i am making my way through a 12 hour DVD of the 2006 Tour at present & I am also reading for the second time "The Death of Marco Pantani". In the Tour Dvd im on the stage where Landis cracks in the mountains.
 
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Runitout said:
In climbing I climb high, sleep low. Otherwise I get a nasty headache and a throat so dry I could use it as a toaster.

I am with Runitout. Anecdotal no doubt but slept high, trained higher (i.e. day climbs/treks - 'snow place to ride up there), slept higher, trained even higher ... repeat cycle etc. Back to sea level and absolutely had them on toast on the bike.
 

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