Lesser known race results 2012

[profff]

i am saying since i appeared in the forum that betancur is very strong with enormous potential. check!!
ryo was always placing him after the other colombians
i saw him at giro bio, he has incredible skills.

this year he lost some weight, he find great condition racing, like the greates in the past did.
shame he was not in the giro, thank to the poor knowledge of cycling of aquarone , who preferred net app to A & S.

i am very surprised he is performing so well , because he has already in the pocket a contract with amadio.
his only limit is work ethic, that was considered his weak point.
last year he came back from colombia overweight and he was able toperform only at the end of the giro, in the finestre stage, after finding some form while racing.
this year he is really better prepared.
ne can deliver results both in hilly classic ans in high mountains.

he knows how to race, he knows tactics.
he was able to win a vuelta joventud taking advantage of favorites indecisions even with a weaker team.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

he isn't as good as a stageracer/climber talent as quintana, duarte or henao for instance. that's what I said. I'm the last to belittle his talent. I only talked about his attitude and it has changed 100% since last years giro. he had an excellent winter and he lost lots of weight clearly. also he is made for classics as you can se eby how he's build. but he will also be a big factor in grand tours. especially when he can improve his itt

 

[jens_attacks]

look's like tour of austria is betancur's next target

 

[will10]

look's like tour of austria is betancur's next target

Interview?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I think more the italian summer classics and lombardia. when will he get a rest btw? he's been top since trentino

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I think more the italian summer classics and lombardia. when will he get a rest btw? he's been top since trentino

 

[profff]

i would like also o underlinae the performance of moser.
in his first year as a pro he is doing very very well.
he can become a great in one day hilly races.

and another moseris arriving for the cobble races.

italian cycling is not dead yet

 

[SafeBet]

i would like also o underlinae the performance of moser.
in his first year as a pro he is doing very very well.
he can become a great in one day hilly races.

and another moseris arriving for the cobble races.

italian cycling is not dead yet

Thing is we don't even know what kind of rider he could become.
He's as smart as they come for a rider his age, climbs well, has got amazing punch. His ability to recover will determine if he can also be a stage race rider.

First rider in years that could make me a fanboy.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

i would like also o underlinae the performance of moser.
in his first year as a pro he is doing very very well.
he can become a great in one day hilly races.

and another moseris arriving for the cobble races.

italian cycling is not dead yet

Meh. Be careful. There's a lot of Italian neo's or 2nd year pro's who have done well in Italian hilly races and didn't really break through on the itnernational scene yet.

Think of guys like Ginanni that do great in Laigueglia and all ****ty 1.1 and 1.hc italian races but are nowhere to be seen in the big WT hilly races

 

[Pippo_San]

Think of guys like Ginanni that do great in Laigueglia and all ****ty 1.1 and 1.hc italian races but are nowhere to be seen in the big WT hilly races

Come on give the guy a little break. You describe him like he's performing **** poor...he's been surely underarchieving considering the hype surrounding him between 2008-2010, but last year he still got a 6th in Strade Bianche (and 8th this year), and a 7th in Milano-Sanremo.
So it's not like he was nowhere to be seen, it's just probably the hype around him was misplaced (and personally I never liked him as a rider).

Moser looks to be very different from Ginanni: surely a better climber, but also slower in sprints, and in a team that will give him loads of opportunities to shine and develop.
He could be similar to Betancur tho, which could be a problem if they end up in the same team. Anyway these guys are so young who knows what's gonna become of them...the only real anomaly in cycling is called Peter Sagan who's a total freak, the others can become stars or maybe even nothing...we shall see

 

[profff]

you don't know anything about ginanni.
he does not live live a racer, he is not doing the "mestiere" (le metier), he likes to party and go to disco.
then he is a different kind of rider: very fast in small bunch sprint, not good as moser in climbing.
then you are right , everybody must be careful about young riders.
but therre are facts:a)moser made a big breakthrough in a WT team , where you get chances if you are really good,b) in his sub 23 career he was given the time to mature without the exageration we often see in italy, where rider potential is completely exploited in search of victories c) he comes from a family where the mestiere, where cycling is an art. in the moser family they know what to do , what is needed to be a good pro...

 

[Mellow Velo]

Watched RAI's hour last night.
Betancur timed his attack and subsequent chase of Caruso to perfection.
Moser, slightly lost his wheel, but was closing him down at the finish.
Both came from well back on the uphill finish.

Winner finally turned up to be Lampre's loser.
He had the job of working on the front, since Lampre
had the numbers.
All they could then manage was a forlorn Bertagnolli going way too early.

 

[SafeBet]

Meh. Be careful. There's a lot of Italian neo's or 2nd year pro's who have done well in Italian hilly races and didn't really break through on the itnernational scene yet.

What about Frankfurt

 

[will10]

Meh. Be careful. There's a lot of Italian neo's or 2nd year pro's who have done well in Italian hilly races and didn't really break through on the itnernational scene yet.

Think of guys like Ginanni that do great in Laigueglia and all ****ty 1.1 and 1.hc italian races but are nowhere to be seen in the big WT hilly races

+1

For every rider that makes the step up to winning WT races, there's another 10 who never will. Betancur and Moser are both doing great, in a few years both could be at the top of the sport or neither could win another race, who knows.

 

[goggalor]

What a fantastic young rider Betancur is. Moser as well.

 

[theyoungest]

What about Frankfurt

A one day race that was dominated by Tony Martin... a clear indicator of classics potential

 

[SantiBotero]

Trofeo Melinda

Huge move by Betancur

 

[will10]

That was a great finish.

 

[El Pistolero]

A one day race that was dominated by Tony Martin... a clear indicator of classics potential

Martin is pretty good at hilly races that aren't longer than 220km. He also never really focused on the one day races, so who knows how he might do if he really cared for them.

For guys like Moser and Betancourt this is a decent indicator. A much better indicator than just randomly hyping someone without him doing anything.

 

[will10]

A one day race that was dominated by Tony Martin... a clear indicator of classics potential

Was that the race he and Hansen were away together all day in crazy weather?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Watched RAI's hour last night.
Betancur timed his attack and subsequent chase of Caruso to perfection.
Moser, slightly lost his wheel, but was closing him down at the finish.
Both came from well back on the uphill finish.

Winner finally turned up to be Lampre's loser.
He had the job of working on the front, since Lampre
had the numbers.
All they could then manage was a forlorn Bertagnolli going way too early.

anacona rode extremely strong though. he was also in the break and betancurt was 5 classes better than the rest as usual now. he look like a cat that play with his victims and knows he's winning the entire time _O_

 

[Michele]

Anacona rode like a mad at Trentino; he was even able to go back to lead the pack again after being dropped.

 

[will10]

Anacona rode like a mad at Trentino; he was even able to go back to lead the pack again after being dropped.

Anacona didn't ride Trentino.

 

[jens_attacks]

Anacona didn't ride Trentino.

trofeo melinda takes place in trentino i guess
very impressive indeed

also betancur acceleration was surreal.it seems he has something from both di luca and bartoli who advise him on everything.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

trofeo melinda takes place in trentino i guess
very impressive indeed

also betancur acceleration was surreal.it seems he has something from both di luca and bartoli who advise him on everything.

Da... correct