Lesser known races thread 2022

[Mayomaniac]

It´s always a big and common mistake in a uphill TT with no crazy gradients, maybe ir you are Dumoulin and you have the reputation of climbing like a a beast in your TT bike, well ok (still a mistake despite some goods results with it). Pretty sure that Leemreize perfomance was not worse than his teammate Harper...

Road bike with TT bars for the final false flat would have been a good option for the big engines.
I can't imagine that Piccolo spend that much time training on his TT bike over the last few months, so his choice is even more suprising.

 

[Anderis]

GC:
7th Piccolo
8th Piccoli
I love it.

 

[SafeBet]

Road bike with TT bars for the final false flat would have been a good option for the big engines.
I can't imagine that Piccolo spend that much time training on his TT bike over the last few months, so his choice is even more suprising.

And even assuming he trained on his TT bike it wasn't the bike he used today.

 

[Mayomaniac]

And even assuming he trained on his TT bike it wasn't the bike he used today.

That's also true.
I like Aleotti, but his climbing style is rather ugly.
A mixture between Dan Martin and Aru...

 

[search]

It´s always a big and common mistake in a uphill TT with no crazy gradients, maybe ir you are Dumoulin and you have the reputation of climbing like a a beast in your TT bike, well ok (still a mistake despite some goods results with it). Pretty sure that Leemreize perfomance was not worse than his teammate Harper...

in 2020 Mühlberger won it on a time trial bike, and with a quicker time. But Bora came fairly early that year, did a recon in advance and so on - don't think anyone was that well prepared this time. Not sure were Piccolo even got a ITT bike from, in the prologue Grosu still complained that he had to do it on a road bike.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Vuelta a Venezuela going on this week, the course is the absolute drizzling excreta, not one serious hill or an ITT and they never go above 600m altitude, which is pretty ridiculous when you look at a topographical map of the country or consider the type of riders that have been most successful when coming from Venezuela in to the péloton of the rest of South America or Europe. We will probably be reliant on the slightly hilly circuits of stages 6 and 7 for action, but the small team sizes and lack of control early on might help - as there are already some time gaps after the break stayed away on stage 1 thanks to no leader's team or particularly strong sprinter's team to control things. As a result Stefano Gandin of Team Corratec won after outsprinting Anderson Paredes, who was outnumbered in the group of 3 as Veljko Stojnić, the third member of the trio, was Gandin's teammate. There are large numbers of riders coming in late after those who were delayed, but getting the same time as the bunch, so it seems there was a significant crash. Another group came in at 14" ahead of the péloton at 26".

Most of the teams are Venezuelan other than Corratec (who are a step down on the usual Italian contingent, as they usually persuade a ProTeam or two to come along), though there are a couple of Colombian and Ecuadorian teams. There's also a couple of Spaniards moonlighting over here, including José Manuel Díaz, formerly of Delko and one of the Rusvelo exiles.

 

[Tim Cahill]

It seems Gorka really sacked off the Champs Elysees and a free 35 UCI points to ride in Ordizia tomorrow. Always knew the man had great style, great character as Brendan would say.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

63km to go in Prueba Vilafranka Ordiziako Klasikoa

5 rider break with Astana keeping it under 2 minutes. Unfortunately Cataford and Irizar crashed in the break, so now is just 3. Jurado, Torres, D Martín

 

[Ilmaestro99]

34km to go. Simon Yates, Juan Ajuso and Samuele Battistella have a 12 second gap over peloton. Ef chasing

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Gruppo Compatto at 30k to go. At 16km to go Garcia Cortina attacked on a false flat descent and had as much as 20 seconds at one point, but was just caught by the peloton. 12km left

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Simon Yates launched a big attack at 11km to go in the drops. He has gone solo. The Spanish commentators are loving it

 

[Ricco']

The spanish commentator just announced that Simon Yates is the winner of the Clasica San Sebastian 2022.

Go get your betting slips.

 

[Samamba]

Well BEX is safe with this 1 and 2. Ngl, perfect tactics regarding to the WT relegation battle. Going all in on Groenewegen and Matthews was risky for the Tour but it worked perfectly and now they have a fit Yates who can clean up a lot of those Spanish races.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Very impressive win by Yates, I know is a small race but he was rapido in the final 10km of rolling terrain, and he had already been off the front before his attack

1-2 for BEX with dion Smith 2nd and Xavier Cañellas in 3rd, no attacks from the chasing group

 

[Libertine Seguros]

At last Cañellas starts to deliver!

 

[Valv.Piti]

Good ol Simon Yates. Watched the last 15 km of the race, and Si saw more screentime than Adam throughout the whole Tour in that span of 20 minutes.

 

[yaco]

This is Yates 2nd win in this race - Would have won three times but gifted the victory to Rob Power in 2018 - Actually BEX has won this race 4 times in their history.

 

[Red Rick]

Yates gonna farm BEX out of relegation troubles?

 

[lemon cheese cake]

So much for Izagirre not starting the final tour stage...

 

[yaco]

Yates victory is all that is wrong with the UCI points system - He gets 125 points for winning a 1.1 with 6 WT teams, while a stage win in the TDF gets 120 points with 18 WT teams - It's a farce of a system.

 

[gunara]

Yates victory is all that is wrong with the UCI points system - He gets 125 points for winning a 1.1 with 6 WT teams, while a stage win in the TDF gets 120 points with 18 WT teams - It's a farce of a system.

It's still winning a whole race with WT teams VS winning at most 1/21 of a race with WT team. A whole peloton may intentionally let you win a stage, but never a whole race.

I doubt you can really get the point weighing perfectly right with a multitiered system, especially ones with multiple winning objectives like cycling.

 

[yaco]

It's still winning a whole race with WT teams VS winning at most 1/21 of a race with WT team. A whole peloton may intentionally let you win a stage, but never a whole race.

I doubt you can really get the point weighing perfectly right with a multitiered system, especially ones with multiple winning objectives like cycling.

There is no way to justify a 1.1 race win attracting more points than a GT stage win - GT stage wins should get 300 points as they are the pinnacle of the sport alongside monuments.

 

[RedheadDane]

There is no way to justify a 1.1 race win attracting more points than a GT stage win - GT stage wins should get 300 points as they are the pinnacle of the sport alongside monuments.

What are GT GC wins, then?

 

[SafeBet]

It's still winning a whole race with WT teams VS winning at most 1/21 of a race with WT team. A whole peloton may intentionally let you win a stage, but never a whole race.

I doubt you can really get the point weighing perfectly right with a multitiered system, especially ones with multiple winning objectives like cycling.

I see your point but let's be honest: no rider would rather win Ordiziako Klasika than a Tour de France stage. Not even the proudest Basque out there.
The system should at least try to award points according to how prestigious a race is considered.

 

[Jan the Man]

There is no way to justify a 1.1 race win attracting more points than a GT stage win - GT stage wins should get 300 points as they are the pinnacle of the sport alongside monuments.

I agree the system needs better weighting, and this is one such example, but it will never be perfect and please all- for example i would strongly push back on the suggestion a GT stage win should equate to the same as a monument…