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Even though she doesn't have her own (non-clinic) thread, surprisingly, I didn't want the forum to miss out...

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Tour of Britain Women 2025: How Lizzie Deignan made cycling cool

Accolades in sport are one thing, but the soon-to-retire Lizzie Deignan is now racing with the very people she inspired to get on a bike.
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Whilst I think there is a degree of truth in this and ultimately Lizzie has been a great ambassador for women’s cycling in the UK, I’ve never got over the lack of respect shown to Nicole Cooke who to my mind is the second greatest female UK road racer of all time. Lizzie’s Roubaix was how long it took for me to thaw.
 
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Whilst I think there is a degree of truth in this and ultimately Lizzie has been a great ambassador for women’s cycling in the UK, I’ve never got over the lack of respect shown to Nicole Cooke who to my mind is the second greatest female UK road racer of all time. Lizzie’s Roubaix was how long it took for me to thaw.
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Id agree but Lizzie makes the point "Social media's had a huge influence on women's sport" all of her success came in an era where she and her success was instantly shareable globally, let alone within the UK, and as she says you can become your own brand ambassador that way and kind of control the narrative and promote yourself

Nicoles arguably greater cycling successes came not in that social media era and where she had to fight even to get noticed what she was doing,and in an environment that still treated the womens side of the sport terribly.

and you had that god awful interview at sports personality of the year, where the only thing Adrian Chiles could think to ask her was do you fall off your bike often ? and hes talking to that years winner of the Tour de France for women.

so I think you have to look at it as just Nicoles period in the sport happened in a era when there was never any respect for womens cycling, and thats why she got so little respect for it, things have at least changed for the better since then.
 
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Can you believe it they fined Demi 100CHF for celebrating teammates Adegeest stage victory at the Volta Ciclista a Catalunya Femenina, she took one hand off the handlebars in celebration, and gets relegated back to 58th on the stage (basically last of the group she was in), no impact on GC, but loses the points for crossing the line in 6th
 
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awavey said:
Can you believe it they fined Demi 100CHF for celebrating teammates Adegeest stage victory at the Volta Ciclista a Catalunya Femenina, she took one hand off the handlebars in celebration, and gets relegated back to 58th on the stage (basically last of the group she was in), no impact on GC, but loses the points for crossing the line in 6th
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Well, rules are rules and they apply to everyone, even to the princess.
 
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Well, rules are rules and they apply to everyone, even to the princess.
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they do, but its a stupid rule imo.

I mean classic example at the Dauphine of a far more dangerous sprint situation, Buitrago just peels off the front group and shuts off and sits in the middle of the road whilst the 2nd group going full speed trying to catch the front group all then have to take avoiding action, but its ok because he kept both hands on his handlebars.
 
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Andy262 said:
Whilst I think there is a degree of truth in this and ultimately Lizzie has been a great ambassador for women’s cycling in the UK, I’ve never got over the lack of respect shown to Nicole Cooke who to my mind is the second greatest female UK road racer of all time. Lizzie’s Roubaix was how long it took for me to thaw.
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British Cycling very much decided Lizzie was "the one" very early on. Nicole had had to achieve far too much on her own without the helping hand of BC and was far too likely to go off script. While Lizzie has had plenty to say about BC that hasn't been especially positive over the years, the way they sold her 2015 Worlds win as a great breakthrough for the sport as though they hadn't had the reigning World AND Olympic champion only seven years earlier rather rankled, not least because they turned her down point blank when she came begging them cap in hand for a ride after the sponsorship fell through on her own personal project and then the extant pro team she signed for got screwed by fly-by-night sponsors and fell apart pre-season.

Lizzie's self-entitled behaviour and attitude and disrespect for her fellow competitors earned her a not undeserved reputation, and when her rather flimsy pre-Olympic reprieve from a ban that had been kept secret was exposed, we got to find out a lot about what the péloton thought of her, not much of it positive. She's also a colossal hypocrite of course. She's mellowed out a lot more as she's grown older, and done more domestique work in the last two or three years than she has in the rest of her career combined, but for some people (myself obviously included, otherwise I wouldn't be posting this) it will take a lot more than that to overcome the bad will built up over the preceding decade and a half.
 
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British Cycling very much decided Lizzie was "the one" very early on. Nicole had had to achieve far too much on her own without the helping hand of BC and was far too likely to go off script. While Lizzie has had plenty to say about BC that hasn't been especially positive over the years, the way they sold her 2015 Worlds win as a great breakthrough for the sport as though they hadn't had the reigning World AND Olympic champion only seven years earlier rather rankled, not least because they turned her down point blank when she came begging them cap in hand for a ride after the sponsorship fell through on her own personal project and then the extant pro team she signed for got screwed by fly-by-night sponsors and fell apart pre-season.

Lizzie's self-entitled behaviour and attitude and disrespect for her fellow competitors earned her a not undeserved reputation, and when her rather flimsy pre-Olympic reprieve from a ban that had been kept secret was exposed, we got to find out a lot about what the péloton thought of her, not much of it positive. She's also a colossal hypocrite of course. She's mellowed out a lot more as she's grown older, and done more domestique work in the last two or three years than she has in the rest of her career combined, but for some people (myself obviously included, otherwise I wouldn't be posting this) it will take a lot more than that to overcome the bad will built up over the preceding decade and a half.
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The article is about two 19 year old British cyclists saying Lizzie Deignan made cycling cool to them.
 
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Vuelta a Colombia starts tomorrow, six stages including two summit finishes, an HC finish at the Alto de La Línea (from the easier eastern side, but that's still a legit HC being around 23km at over 6%) and a cat.2 summit at Santuário in Risaralda, which if my memory serves me correctly is about 8km at 7,5%. There's also an MTT into Manizales via the Mirador del Chipre (as opposed to the more common and more tempo-grinding Plaza de Toros ascent).

The usual suspects for a LatAm race are lined up, with the likes of Villamizar, Esther Galarza, Jessica Parra, Miryam Núñez, Jazmin Soto, Estefania Herrera, Diana Peñuela, Jessenia Meneses, Marcela Hernández, Aranza Villalón returning from a few years' sojourn in Europe, and of course defending champion and pre-race favourite Lilibeth Chacón.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
British Cycling very much decided Lizzie was "the one" very early on. Nicole had had to achieve far too much on her own without the helping hand of BC and was far too likely to go off script. While Lizzie has had plenty to say about BC that hasn't been especially positive over the years, the way they sold her 2015 Worlds win as a great breakthrough for the sport as though they hadn't had the reigning World AND Olympic champion only seven years earlier rather rankled, not least because they turned her down point blank when she came begging them cap in hand for a ride after the sponsorship fell through on her own personal project and then the extant pro team she signed for got screwed by fly-by-night sponsors and fell apart pre-season.

Lizzie's self-entitled behaviour and attitude and disrespect for her fellow competitors earned her a not undeserved reputation, and when her rather flimsy pre-Olympic reprieve from a ban that had been kept secret was exposed, we got to find out a lot about what the péloton thought of her, not much of it positive. She's also a colossal hypocrite of course. She's mellowed out a lot more as she's grown older, and done more domestique work in the last two or three years than she has in the rest of her career combined, but for some people (myself obviously included, otherwise I wouldn't be posting this) it will take a lot more than that to overcome the bad will built up over the preceding decade and a half.
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Quite. I just rewatched the final stages of Nicole’s Varesi win on Youtube. What a tremendous race that was. Reminded me of Hayman’s Roubaix.
 
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There should have been a time trial in Suisse. I'm also not a big fan of the route in general (why is the only real mountain located 60 km from the finish on the first stage?), but at least we get another duel between Reusser and Vollering. Without an MTF surprises may be possible, although the Michaelskreuz should still create substantial gaps.
 
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Samu Cuenca said:
There should have been a time trial in Suisse. I'm also not a big fan of the route in general (why is the only real mountain located 60 km from the finish on the first stage?), but at least we get another duel between Reusser and Vollering. Without an MTF surprises may be possible, although the Michaelskreuz should still create substantial gaps.
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Four stage races should not include an ITT/Prologue.
 
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