Notso Swift said:The unfortunate thing about Simpson is he significant for his death, not his achievements...
That is criminal when you consider he was the first Anglo to be World Road Champion, First Monument winner, and (not sure about this) Yellow wearer at the Tour
Mambo95 said:Yeah, he was the first Brit in Yellow and he won three monuments (Cavendish is the only other Brit to win one). Amongst knowledgeable British fans he's still very much known for his achievements. The argument is over who is Britain's greatest ever, Simpson or Robert Millar (personally I favour Simpson) - although Cavendish may surpass both in time.
Will Fotheringham's book about him is well worth a read.
blunder said:I have never understood the worship of someone who not only doped but doped himself to death...
If Landis had expired on the Col de Joux-Plane in 2006 should we have built a monument?
forty four said:i dont even no where to begin on that comment. you just dont get it i assume you have never raced with that mentality. maybe look into the whole story regarding simpson and how it is/was to make it at that level same for guys today. its not something you can understand though if you could you would not make statements like that. find a soft sport that better suits you move on.
blunder said:Seriously though, Simpsons death was a very sad episode.
BUT he was a doper and died as a direct result of cheating.
TeamSkyFans said:actually he died more as a result of 45 degree heat and a lack of fluids as rules in those days only allowed for four waterbottles.
The amphetemines clearly clouded his judgement as to how dehydrated he was or wasnt.
blunder said:He died of a heart attack and an autopsy found traces of amphetamines in his blood. Certainly the heat, Mont Ventoux and his desire for victory all contributed his death. But there is no denying his long term doping (not only of amphetamines) ultimately led to his death.
TeamSkyFans said:So if i get hit by a car and killed and they find traces of alcohol in my blood does that mean i was drunk and walked in front of the car.
Drugs played a part but the claim that drugs where solely responsible for his death is invalid, there were other factors. Not in denial, just being realistic, yes, drugs had a lot to do with it, but were not the ONLY factor in his death. Had it been cold and wet that day he probably wouldnt have died.
I would say a direct result of cheating is arguable if everyone was doing it. Doping contributed, he didnt die of cheating.
blunder said:Amphetamines are a known diuretic.
Lastly, I have never bought into the 'everyone was doing it' argument... 'I went to see Dr Fuentes because everyone else was...'
LugHugger said:This statement exposes your ignorance of the realities of professional cycle sport. For as long as the Tour has existed, there has been widespread 'cheating'. To label Simpson as a 'cheat' is to label Coppi, Grimondi, Merckx and the other legends of the sport as cheats too.
sublimit said:Thanks for your input on this topic...
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