Let's make popular the term "the king stage"

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gregrowlerson said:
Perhaps the rook stage is to many, the ITT. Pretty boring, but still can have a great effect on the overall :D

For me, like the game of chess, most grand tours should include two proper rooks :p

Exactly, rooks are game winners as often as queens are, just as TT's often win races.
 
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El Pistolero said:
No offense, but that term would make no sense at all. The king is the most important pawn of the game...

You're just put out that the knight stages are the ones Gilbert wins - can make a small difference but you won't win overall if that's all you've got.
 
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Going with the chess theme, I think the king stage should be the stage where a tour is lost, as opposed to the queen stage where it is won. Without having a real life example, it could be like, say, a mountain stage with 50km of flat before the finish. Not a good stage to attack, but if you get caught out by a split, you've had it.

Actually the l'Aguila (?) stage of the '10 Giro might be a good example.

I don't think the term "queen stage" comes from chess, though.
 
taiwan said:
Going with the chess theme, I think the king stage should be the stage where a tour is lost, as opposed to the queen stage where it is won. Without having a real life example, it could be like, say, a mountain stage with 50km of flat before the finish. Not a good stage to attack, but if you get caught out by a split, you've had it.

Actually the l'Aguila (?) stage of the '10 Giro might be a good example.

I don't think the term "queen stage" comes from chess, though.

No, it probably comes from the fact that the current monarch in the UK et al. is the queen rather than a king (Or perhaps queen Victoria if the term is old). The same term is called "king stage" in most other languages.
 
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ingsve said:
No, it probably comes from the fact that the current monarch in the UK et al. is the queen rather than a king (Or perhaps queen Victoria if the term is old). The same term is called "king stage" in most other languages.

How about the genders of nouns in these languages? FI in Britain places I believe are referred to as feminine, whereas in Germany they are masculine? Not 100% on this.
 
ingsve said:
No, it probably comes from the fact that the current monarch in the UK et al. is the queen rather than a king (Or perhaps queen Victoria if the term is old). The same term is called "king stage" in most other languages.

Queen Victoria died in 1901, 2 years before the first Tour de France even began as something totally different to what modern day stage races are and long before there would have been any British interest in it.
 
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The Hitch said:
Queen Victoria died in 1901, 2 years before the first Tour de France even began as something totally different to what modern day stage races are and long before there would have been any British interest in it.

France was indeed the nation that added cycling to the canon of European sports(I actually read that in one of my books I had to learn for exams lol). In French they use L'etape du Reine to describe the hardest stage. La Reine = the Queen.

France didn't even have a king/queen at the time cycling became a sport, so that can't be the explanation. The last French monarch was Emperor Napoleon III who reigned till 1870.
 
The Hitch said:
Queen Victoria died in 1901, 2 years before the first Tour de France even began as something totally different to what modern day stage races are and long before there would have been any British interest in it.

There are more situations than cycling that has stages. Queen stage or King stage is not exclusive to cycling as far as I know.
 
taiwan said:
How about the genders of nouns in these languages? FI in Britain places I believe are referred to as feminine, whereas in Germany they are masculine? Not 100% on this.

Well, "die Etappe" (the stage) is feminine in German, yet it's "Königsetappe".

taiwan said:
In other languages, is the phrase "the king/queen stage" or "the king's/queen's"?

So it would be "the king's stage", you'd think. But the distinction between these do isn't really possible in German, "Königetappe" is just plain wrong.
 
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Pawn is like the whole Tour Down Under, watching it late at night waiting for some good action and when it comes you're done.
 
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Fus087 said:
Well, "die Etappe" (the stage) is feminine in German, yet it's "Königsetappe".



So it would be "the king's stage", you'd think. But the distinction between these do isn't really possible in German, "Königetappe" is just plain wrong.

In that case, I have no idea. Thanks for clearing that up.