Levi Leipheimer

[Oldman]

I see nothing but male love for Levi here. Whenever he gets close I look the other way, kinda like my shy labordoodle Pepper.

Ephedra is whack. I always prefer the meathal alcohol type drugs like my hero Hunter S. Thompson. Hunter knew what time it was.

No, dude. I meant for Odessa.

 

[Anonymous]

TP did NOT say he hated dopers.

TP called Vino a doper. And Joe Papp is a big Vino FanBoy.
"Why didn't TP call Levi a doper" WaaWaaWaa.

A pathetic petulant frenzy soon ensued.

actually he did.. his words where

"i hate all dopers"

i can go fetch the quotes if you really need me to

and levi was never mentioned to TP.. Tp said he hated all dopers, i asked how he could hate all dopers yet ride under the banner of the texan, he replied "has this texan ever failed a test, i think not!"

TP never mentioned levi, nor was levi ever mentioned to him.

Please try and keep the facts accurate

and besides, this is the levi thread, if you need to discuss TP go to the TP thread, its on about page 4

 

[Polish]

actually he did.. his words where

"i hate all dopers"

i can go fetch the quotes if you really need me to

Please try and keep the facts accurate

and besides, this is the levi thread, if you need to discuss TP go to the TP thread, its on about page 4

Dim, go back and read the Original Post. First paragraph

This thread is about Joe Papp calling out TP as a hypocrite.
Joe makes his case by plugging his blog and discussing the same Levi Clariton
case that makes the rounds every year on the interwebs.

Joe Papp calling TP a hypocrite lol.

Anyway Dim, I was unable to find TP saying "i hate all dopers".

He did express disappointment that Vino won LBL.
He did say that he does not like cheaters
He did say he read the Twilight Series over the weekend recently.
But nowhere did I see "i hate all dopers"
C'mon, would a Hater be reading the Twilight Series?

But I understand you feel the "accurate facts" are:
1) This is "the levi thread"
2) TP said "i hate all dopers"

That's fine Dim. No problem here.
I drive my car on the wrong side of the road too.

 

[Anonymous]

Dim, go back and read the Original Post. First paragraph

This thread is about Joe Papp calling out TP as a hypocrite.
Joe makes his case by plugging his blog and discussing the same Levi Clariton
case that makes the rounds every year on the interwebs.

Joe Papp calling TP a hypocrite lol.

Anyway Dim, I was unable to find TP saying "i hate all dopers".

He did express disappointment that Vino won LBL.
He did say that he does not like cheaters
He did say he read the Twilight Series over the weekend recently.
But nowhere did I see "i hate all dopers"
C'mon, would a Hater be reading the Twilight Series?

But I understand you feel the "accurate facts" are:
1) This is "the levi thread"
2) TP said "i hate all dopers"

That's fine Dim. No problem here.
I drive my car on the wrong side of the road too.

ok, he said I hate all cheaters after reffering to vino as a doper who needs to go away. then he was asked about lance, and denied lance ever having a positive test.

i notice a couple of TP's tweets have always been deleted..

but anyway.. as i said before this thread is about levis positive in 1996 and how it was covered up by various people. Do you have anything positive to contribute?

and yes TP is a hippocrite because he called out vino, and said he hated all cheats no matter who they rode for yet had nothing to say about RS's positive around the same time, defended lance etc etc.. but thats for the TP thread not this one.. stop derailing.

 

[Polish]

ok, he said I hate all cheaters after reffering to vino as a doper who needs to go away. then he was asked about lance, and denied lance ever having a positive test.

i notice a couple of TP's tweets have always been deleted..

but anyway.. as i said before this thread is about levis positive in 1996 and how it was covered up by various people. Do you have anything positive to contribute?

and yes TP is a hippocrite because he called out vino, and said he hated all cheats no matter who they rode for yet had nothing to say about RS's positive around the same time, defended lance etc etc.. but thats for the TP thread not this one.. stop derailing.

There you go with the "hate" word again.

TP did NOT say he hated dopers
TP did NOT say he hated cheaters

TP said he disliked people who cheat. Is that really so bad?

And if you do dislike your boss or you do dislike your co-workers, it is a good idea to make public that fact on facebook or twitter? Get serious Dim.

And again, Joe Papp, the original poster of this thread, introduced the hypocrisy of TP in his opening statement. This thread is about TP. The example of Levi is used to support his argument that TP is a hypocrite.

 

[Polish]

And Polish is a ... ? I never did get why readers who believe the interest or opinions behind a particular thread to be pathetic will then take the time to post that observation within the thread. Why not just ignore threads they consider pathetic, much like Taylor Phinney ignores the fact that his future-teammate is a once-sanctioned doper? And according to his clearly-biased and hostile anti-Kazakh logic - someone who he must hate, along with Vino.

Taylor Phinney hates all dopers.
Levi Leipheimer is a doper.
Ergo, Taylor Phinney must hate Levi - not just Vino.

Now you are suggesting TP is a racist in addition to being a hypocrite?
TP is filled with hostility and hatred? That is just mean, Joe.

 

[Anonymous]

dont like, hate, whatever.. and as said before some of TP's tweets have been removed. And as also said before this is the levi thread. Im bored talking to the livestrong intern now..

however, if taylor doesnt like anyone who cheats, i guess he doesnt like his parents very much

 

[Bala Verde]

I deleted about 10 TP posts. Next off topic takes a week vacation.

 

[blackcat]

I deleted about 10 TP posts. Next off topic takes a week vacation.

If you is a cruize on to the canaries, I will enter!

 

[blackcat]

I deleted about 10 TP posts. Next off topic takes a week vacation.

If you win a cruize to the Canary Islands, I will enter!

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

This isn't a subject to be joking about.

Not just this thread, but many through the forum have become a free-for all, drifting in and out of topic, and into other topics covered in other threads, often interspersed with insults and posts antagonizing and insulting or baiting each other, and it has to stop.

As the Tour gets close we're going to see double the posts, and an influx of new members. We all know that. It's already starting. So let's all prepare by staying on topic. That doesn't mean no humor, and playful banter is to be expected, but this issue of off-topic posts, and especially directly insulting each other back and forth will soon not be tolerated, at all. Those who fail to take it seriously will indeed find themselves unable to post.

 

[Digger]

This isn't a subject to be joking about.

Not just this thread, but many through the forum have become a free-for all, drifting in and out of topic, and into other topics covered in other threads, often interspersed with insults and posts antagonizing and insulting or baiting each other, and it has to stop.

As the Tour gets close we're going to see double the posts, and an influx of new members. We all know that. It's already starting. So let's all prepare by staying on topic. That doesn't mean no humor, and playful banter is to be expected, but this issue of off-topic posts, and especially directly insulting each other back and forth will soon not be tolerated, at all. Those who fail to take it seriously will indeed find themselves unable to post.

I accept your point and you're right. And I certainly have been guilty of te above. In our defence though, there has been such an influx, of what I woud term, 'questionable' members, the regulars such as myself are losing the motivation to post according to rules and guidelines, as it is clear that so many others are just taking the p***. In my opinion, in the year I have been a member on here, it is by far the worst I have seen this issue.

 

[Anonymous]

Not just this thread, but many through the forum have become a free-for all, drifting in and out of topic, and into other topics covered in other threads, often interspersed with insults and posts antagonizing and insulting or baiting each other, and it has to stop. .

I did try to get it back on track but someone wasnt having it. That someone is now on my ignore list, far easier

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Please remember the best solution is to report questionable postings. You can always send a PM to the mods, preferably with a link.

Thanks.

Susan

 

[flicker]

This isn't a subject to be joking about.

Not just this thread, but many through the forum have become a free-for all, drifting in and out of topic, and into other topics covered in other threads, often interspersed with insults and posts antagonizing and insulting or baiting each other, and it has to stop.

As the Tour gets close we're going to see double the posts, and an influx of new members. We all know that. It's already starting. So let's all prepare by staying on topic. That doesn't mean no humor, and playful banter is to be expected, but this issue of off-topic posts, and especially directly insulting each other back and forth will soon not be tolerated, at all. Those who fail to take it seriously will indeed find themselves unable to post.

Sorry, I just get crazy when they talk about former Chipendales star Levi Leipheimer. Think about it, Levi's married to the beautiful Oddessa, worked as an exotic dancer, placed 2nd and 4th in the Vuelta and is as interesting as a plateful of IHOP pancakes. I mean I take 1 look at Levi and I flatline.

He lives in a beautiful home in Sonoma County, best cycling in the world.

Then he gets attacked by Joe Papp, because Joe Papp was miffed because Taylor Phinney who is sponsored by the Trek/Livestrong called Vino a doper.

Joe timed his doping "ephedra revelation" about Levi banned in 96 at the crit championship to perfection right before the ToC.

Which inspired Floyd Landis to finally come true during the ToC which caused Lance to crash out of the ToC. Which resulted in Levis' withdrawl from the Dauphine.

Reminds me of Rube Goldburg cartoons. Yes these threads to me have no sanctity. They are fun and entertaining and the more irreverent and off the wall the posts they are blessed with by me f. licker the better.

Forum Poster ----------- People just because you are serious doesn't mean we need to be taking you seriously. The Economy is serious, the Gulf BP spill is catastrophic but Levis Ephedra use to me is as important as the backside of an ant!

 

[barn yard]

now that there have been a number of valid sources cited, how is the main wiki page updated to reflect the doping history of levi? does it have to be done by an admin or...?

 

[BYOP88]

now that there have been a number of valid sources cited, how is the main wiki page updated to reflect the doping history of levi? does it have to be done by an admin or...?

I believe that only Levi can edit his wiki page.

 

[Anonymous]

I believe that only Levi can edit his wiki page.

and he has to get permission first

 

[Colm.Murphy]

and he has to get permission first

...and Odessa must then check it with Lance.

 

[poupou]

In other languages it's still possible to add that doping information.

 

[El Imbatido]

...and Odessa must then check it with Lance.

And then Lance will pay Patty McQuaid $25,000......no i think it is 90,000 or maybe it was $500,000 to make sure it doesn't get added to wikipedia.

And that my friend is how the hierarchy of cycling works

 

[Willy_Voet]

I believe that only Levi can edit his wiki page.

Serious? Levi's Wikipedia page can only be edited by him?

I understand limiting the number of people who can change something that is controversial, but if only Levi can change it, then it does not belong on Wikipedia...it is at that point a personal website.

 

[BYOP88]

Serious? Levi's Wikipedia page can only be edited by him?

I understand limiting the number of people who can change something that is controversial, but if only Levi can change it, then it does not belong on Wikipedia...it is at that point a personal website.

No i was just being flippant about it. But as Joe P was told by Cycling USA "we haven't got/can't find the file for Levi, he'll have to confirm the positive test". So maybe only Levi or someone at the Shack can edit his page.

 

[Anonymous]

im going to draw up a wiki edit tommorow but it needs to be very clearly and carefully worded, without mentioning the drug as that is not mentioned in any reports, and clearly detailing the velonews article and response from the leipheimer family.

if its properly worded citing all valid sources, and the admins still remove it i shall raise it as a dispute

 

[131313]

im going to draw up a wiki edit tommorow but it needs to be very clearly and carefully worded, without mentioning the drug as that is not mentioned in any reports, and clearly detailing the velonews article and response from the leipheimer family.

if its properly worded citing all valid sources, and the admins still remove it i shall raise it as a dispute

why would the family's response be relevant? Tugboat probably didn't believe that Tyler doped?