Levi Leipheimer

[Energy Starr]

I think it's LA. Just sounds like drivel that would come out of his piehole. That being said, probably mostly right on, and by right on, I mean justification in his own mind. If you think being a bank robber is ok, then it's ok.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Bottle crawls out of his cave.

I know whomever owns VN now will be happy with the traffic spike, but equivalent to smoking Meth and I won't enable their "shades of gray" garbage.

http://pastebin.com/p0xsG3ek

 

[Dazed and Confused]

sorry, just not going to read all that.
Whats the deal here?

 

[DirtyWorks]

sorry, just not going to read all that.
Whats the deal here?

Everyone did it in those dark times.
I'm not a giant d0uche.
Everyone I meet has never said a bad thing to me.
Doing the fondo "for the children" even though I'm the equivalent of a person possibly introducing children to a sport that is very unsafe for children. (meaning doping)

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Everyone did it in those dark times.
I'm not a giant d0uche.
Everyone I meet has never said a bad thing to me.

ah right. Thanks.

 

[Nick C.]

Everyone did it in those dark times.
I'm not a giant d0uche.
Everyone I meet has never said a bad thing to me.
Doing the fondo "for the children" even though I'm the equivalent of a person that did very bad things to children.

I get the point but I'm sure not intending to equate him with a child molester which is how it reads.

 

[del1962]

Read the piece, it is 5 minutes of my life I will never get back, nothing interesting in it at all.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I get the point but I'm sure not intending to equate him with a child molester which is how it reads.

Not my intent. I've revised. Still, he played the card.

The gran fondo is just about going out doing this epic huge ride and getting young kids and the next generation of kids excited about cycling

IMO, him in particular dropping that line, in the US where the competitive sport is run by a single guy perfectly okay with doping is... something. I forgot about Levi urging his DS to get doping. I don't have good words for it.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Read the piece, it is 5 minutes of my life I will never get back, nothing interesting in it at all.

== Bottle.

 

[Digger]

many like to portray johan and lance as the devil and that those poor guys hwo got six months were pressurised - and this explains the differences in bans - what about levi for example putting pressure on Johan to run a programme...six months.

 

[Nick C.]

I would like to think that there are enough "clean" people at the grass roots level to get events like this to happen. But then again the most I have done is participate so who am I to grouse from the comfort of my keyboard.

 

[IzzyStradlin]

many like to portray johan and lance as the devil and that those poor guys hwo got six months were pressurised - and this explains the differences in bans - what about levi for example putting pressure on Johan to run a programme...six months.

It would be pretty easy to make the case that Lance and Johann's influence was so entrenched that it took some really sweet deals to get adequate evidence?

But Levi is also an exception among the witnesses, as this was his second violation.

 

[Benotti69]

many like to portray johan and lance as the devil and that those poor guys hwo got six months were pressurised - and this explains the differences in bans - what about levi for example putting pressure on Johan to run a programme...six months.

I think Armstrong, Bruyneel, Hein, Weisel, Stapleton, Ferrari are all devils.

The guys who got 6 months are cheats and dopers. They deserved a hell of lot more 'punishment' for their career long doping. They definitely should have had big fines.

Their career palmares should have been wiped and in the record books it should read doper after their names.

 

[IzzyStradlin]

Their career palmares should have been wiped and in the record books it should read doper after their names.

A doping positive should mean forfeiture of all results. All of them, start clean after you serve your suspension. I cannot imagine why UCI would oppose this.

But as we also know, the record books are worth exactly jack sh!t. Bike racing will always be about winning today, getting that jersey on the paper/internet tomorrow.

 

[Benotti69]

what about levi for example putting pressure on Johan to run a programme...six months.

Levi says he pressurised Bruyneel, but maybe Levi was trying to take as much blame to stay onside with the omerta, which failed. Why believe Levi?

 

[Race Radio]

http://crankpunk.com/2014/11/07/the-leipheimer-smack-down-19-year-old-disappointed-with-former-hero/

Not everyone is so welcoming to Levi.

A buddy of mine was in the race. IIRC he was in small lead group with Levi bridged up with 2 other guys. They all took turns telling Levi to Fork off and get out of the race. This is a funny quote

The people I talked to after the Crusher weren’t opposed to my presence because today isn’t about winning and losing

Ahhh yes, some guys after the race were nice to you. What about the guys in the race, what did they say?