Liège - Bastogne - Liège 2026, one-day monument, 26th April

[Pippo_San]

Lets be serious now. All these comments about how Sixpack shouldnt have worked with Pogi.
The poor guy had literally ZERO CHANCES after La Redoute. He was hanging and clinging to dear life the poor kid, almost swinging back and forth.
He had literally no chances after such an effort.

 

[Red Rick]

It's also understandable in the sense that he's working on his reputation right now: being perceived as a non-cooperative rider could hurt him in some races in the future.

How often have you seen a breakaway that just stops because Carapaz isn't taking turns unless you take his family hostage and even then he's finding it really difficult to push himself to do turns?

 

[Red Rick]

Lets be serious now. All these comments about how Sixpack shouldnt have worked with Pogi.
The poor guy had literally ZERO CHANCES after La Redoute. He was hanging and clinging to dear life the poor kid, almost swinging back and forth.
He had literally no chances after such an effort.

It's one of the basic pillars of how to fight oppression.

Do not obey in advance.

 

[Taxus4a]

I think (just my opinion) Seixas raced to secure second. That's the gist of it when I saw him working with Pog a bit. He wanted to dissuade Pog from dropping him too early so he could have a bigger buffer versus the chasing pack.

And considering Seixas' age and where he was, it's totally understandable.

Hi! He worked almost as Pogacar, not a bit, and in Pogacar words he pulled hard.

 

[Taxus4a]

I just do not understand this kind of sentiment at all regarding Seixas; if he had struggled on La Redoute or something I could see it but he fought the best rider in the world to almost the bitter end of 260k as a 19 year old. I don't see that as his 'engine dropping', he was just up against someone a little better. I think there is a difference.

What Remco said was right and It was logic. Remco just said nobody would be surprised if he fade a little at the end. If the race is 200 km long I think we see an sprint at the end. Anyway Seixas make a superperformance and he finished really well last 10 km after respond very hard attacks by Pogacar. What Seixas is doing since past year just can do make open the mouth and eyes to anybody becouse is the most amazing performance I ever watched in cycling and I think in history.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

How often have you seen a breakaway that just stops because Carapaz isn't taking turns unless you take his family hostage and even then he's finding it really difficult to push himself to do turns?

So maybe reputation is overrated and hopefully Horner will finally become a DS of some cycling team!
I can't wait to seeing him screaming "knucklehead!" at his and other teams' riders.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

It's one of the basic pillars of how to fight oppression.

Do not obey in advance.

Alerta Alerta Antipogista?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Schmid won the Ardennes Week with a combined result of 19 ahead of Grégoire with 20 and Skjelmose on 24. Based on time rather than placings, the winner is obviously Skjelmose, and had he raced slightly smarter in LBL he could also have won by the other metric. Everyone was of course also lucky that Cosnefroy couldn't ride for himself yesterday.

 

[Brullnux]

Schmid won the Ardennes Week with a combined result of 19 ahead of Grégoire with 20 and Skjelmose on 24. Based on time rather than placings, the winner is obviously Skjelmose, and had he raced slightly smarter in LBL he could also have won by the other metric. Everyone was of course also lucky that Cosnefroy couldn't ride for himself yesterday.

Grande Schmid. He'll win Quebec this year in Julian's absence, I am sure of it

 

[Unchained]

Uh? Pog attacked him at meter 1 of the final categorized climb.

The race I saw had Remco in first huge split that was brought back..
After regrouping, I must have missed something..
Pogacar and Seixas were in a 2 man break were Pogacar jumped from.. The race I watched had everyone chasing a pretty large break that included Remco initially..

Seixas was able to ride, contribute meaningfully until Pogacar's last attack.. You could clearly see Seixas was breaking, his body was bobbing all over, he had an incredible recovery after Tadej cracked him.

 

[Unchained]

What Remco said was right and It was logic. Remco just said nobody would be surprised if he fade a little at the end. If the race is 200 km long I think we see an sprint at the end. Anyway Seixas make a superperformance and he finished really well last 10 km after respond very hard attacks by Pogacar. What Seixas is doing since past year just can do make open the mouth and eyes to anybody becouse is the most amazing performance I ever watched in cycling and I think in history.

That's a very positive post ,I agree.
Remco was completely wrong on if Seixas had enough volume, he raced the entire race very strong, including his recovery after small crack after Pogacar's attack, Pogacar looked back repeatedly in surprise that he was having such a hard time gapping young Seixas.
Is doing a 3 week grand tour logical? Probably not but with the right management and mental preparation there is no reason why France and the world can't get a look at rising star at the TDF.
If Seixas and his support system, let all the hype continue, hype saying he has a great chance of an upset against Tadej, Jonas, hype saying he is a sure thing for a podium.. In my opinion that would be a mistake.. That's a setup for disappointment and feelings of failure.
Seixas can try things in the first 10 days of the race and if he lasts, great, but if not, great learning, building experience. If people are filling his head that he is going to win the TDF and he goes all in I personally don't think it will work out. On the other hand, if Seixas races TDF I hope his result is better than doubting Remco....

 

[proffate]

Seixas was able to ride, contribute meaningfully until Pogacar's last attack.. You could clearly see Seixas was breaking, his body was bobbing all over, he had an incredible recovery after Tadej cracked him.

Sure but just where do you think Tadej would have attacked if Seixas had not taken a turn?

I guess it doesn't really matter as (this forum has decided that) Pog is laying the smack down in a sprint anyhow.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Sure but just where do you think Tadej would have attacked if Seixas had not taken a turn?

I guess it doesn't really matter as (this forum has decided that) Pog is laying the smack down in a sprint anyhow.

If Seixas doesn't pull then Pogi pulls at lower watts and strikes on Faucons (like he did but maybe a bit stronger).

 

[proffate]

If Seixas doesn't pull then Pogi pulls at lower watts and strikes on Faucons (like he did but maybe a bit stronger).

I agree, it didn't matter what Seixas did, outcome is the same either way, including the ample margin over p3

 

[canina82]

There is one thing I still don't understand about Pogacar.
Did he go really deep on la Redoute or went deep but preserved some energy for the final decisive climb (RaF)?
The first option tells us he is way better than anyone else at doing repetitive efforts (removing lactate). The second option is based on how much time he gained on Seixas (20" on RaF) who went really deep on La Redoute.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

There is one thing I still don't understand about Pogacar.
Did he go really deep on la Redoute or went deep but preserved some energy for the final decisive climb (RaF)?
The first option tells us he is way better than anyone else at doing repetitive efforts (removing lactate). The second option is based on how much time he gained on Seixas (20" on RaF) who went really deep on La Redoute.

Pogi went really deep on Redoute but it seemed Seixas was even closer to his limits while doing a bit lower effort (he was on Pog's wheel all the time), which indicated Pog's aerobic engine was superior. The same aerobic efficiency enables you to clean lactate fast and recover better for the next climb. It's all part of the same story. Plus it's also possible that Pog gets tired slower on low gradient terrain than Seixas (so trading pulls cost the Frenchman more).

 

[CyclistAbi]

He said look we can do it the easy or the hard way, first he went easy then he went hard and that blew the gasket.

 

[vappa]

There is one thing I still don't understand about Pogacar.
Did he go really deep on la Redoute or went deep but preserved some energy for the final decisive climb (RaF)?
The first option tells us he is way better than anyone else at doing repetitive efforts (removing lactate). The second option is based on how much time he gained on Seixas (20" on RaF) who went really deep on La Redoute.

I think #1 option, his pedaling towards the top of Redoute suggested that he was really trying very hard but couldn't go faster. But his recovery is extraordinary, Seixas doesn't have that (yet)