Lidl-Trek (no longer Radioshack-Leopard Trek)

[Benotti69]

the main objective of nissan sponsoring the cycling is to promote their green car leaf in the north american market, i can assure you Nissan and Radioshack will pull out soon, they are very unhappy with this merge

will they pull before the climax of winning the TdF and leave a sticky mess or will the end come way before that.

 

[craig1985]

I'm taking this all with a large grain of salt until people back up their statements or have a history of being right, like race radio.

 

[theyoungest]

I can assure most don't even know who Andy Shleck is. Lance is still number one. Although they don't defend him like they used to...

I said American cycling fans, not Americans in general.

 

[Anonymous]

Birdy told me they're about to be stiffed world tour wise. They'll be invited to the Tour but not a lot else.

Im not even sure they will get a tour invite. They are basically a Luxembourg team with European riders. Not sure how appealing that is to the Tour of California organisers, especailly now Levi has moved on.

 

[Benotti69]

Im not even sure they will get a tour invite. They are basically a Luxembourg team with European riders. Not sure how appealing that is to the Tour of California organisers, especailly now Levi has moved on.

I imagine if Amgen sponsor it they'll invite their best customer's team dont ya think. Also Horner last years winner must mean they'll get an invite.

 

[maxmartin]

Radio and Nissan probably will still around another year, pull out in 2013, there is no way Shelecks can win next year TDF

will they pull before the climax of winning the TdF and leave a sticky mess or will the end come way before that.

 

[scullster46]

Birdy told me they're about to be stiffed world tour wise. They'll be invited to the Tour but not a lot else.

This would be a good move by the uci for once. Teams and sponsors need to learn that pro cycling is about the riders, not themselves. The way that sponsors act like they can buy a tour invite and if they don't get immediate results then they have the right to pack up and leave without reprecussion is sickening

 

[Cobblestoned]

This would be a good move by the uci for once. Teams and sponsors need to learn that pro cycling is about the riders, not themselves. The way that sponsors act like they can buy a tour invite and if they don't get immediate results then they have the right to pack up and leave without reprecussion is sickening

Yes, agree.
And because cycling is about riders, that team will gain a WorldTour license easily. When thehog heard something like that in his head, it should be clear that they will have a WT license for sure. lol
Their riders points and just their names, should combine to more than enough points to earn the teams place in toplevel of cycling and I think it is justified, isn't it ?
Of course you are right about some sponsors and their "strategy" and ethics.
Thats not really exemplary, even when riders themselfes.....

If a sponsor wants to sign long term agreements, the UCI has to assure that the money is backed and guaranteed for the whole term. To make it fair, I would give sponsors a clause to pull out at end of season, in case there should be doping-case(s).
Mainsponsors should be bounded to a minimum term of 2 years, so that there is always a buffer to look for a new sponsor and there need to be deadlines that make sense.

Whatever the UCI does regarding the rankings, systems and licenses - there will always be people crying.
I think the new ranking system is not perfect, but an improvement.
Because its about the riders.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Andersen hopes to be in team car at Tour de France

RadioShack-Nissan-Trek DS unsure which race teams he will oversee

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/andersen-hopes-to-be-in-team-car-at-tour-de-france


Anyone want to take a wild guess?

 

[Christian]

Radioshack-Nissan-Trek will keep the three sponsors in its name for all official communication, even though it has been registered, in accordance with UCI rules, with only two name sponsors. Leopard SA has confirmed this to RTL.

The new Continental team will take over most of this year's gear and equipment.

The ProTeam will keep most of its gear sponsors, such as Bontrager, Shimano, Craft and Northwave. Sram and Giro (who sponsored RadioShack) will not be a part of the project. Nike will probably only sponsor the post-race shoes.

http://sport.rtl.lu/cyclissem/news/152507.html

 

[c&cfan]

Radioshack-Nissan-Trek will keep the three sponsors in its name for all official communication, even though it has been registered, in accordance with UCI rules, with only two name sponsors. Leopard SA has confirmed this to RTL.

The new Continental team will take over most of this year's gear and equipment.

The ProTeam will keep most of its gear sponsors, such as Bontrager, Shimano, Craft and Northwave. Sram and Giro (who sponsored RadioShack) will not be a part of the project. Nike will probably only sponsor the post-race shoes.

http://sport.rtl.lu/cyclissem/news/152507.html

I love this team, i really do. if cancellara wasn't there they would be the perfect "enemy" for us cycling romantics. we need that. i hope bruynell toughens andy. it's better for contador if andy becomes his "enemy". contador is just too kind.

andy with a full charged radioshack team?? amazing!! contador will be motivated.

having said that, if contador isn't there it will lose all the fun, unless someone "new" appears. after the scandal that was this edition europcar, i am tipping rolland.

 

[jens_attacks]

kern,remember this name c&c.

personally i think both andy and frank will announce on april that they will go in giro.and in le tour they will be domestiques for klodi and horner.that's my wish anyway lol.

 

[c&cfan]

kern,remember this name c&c.

personally i think both andy and frank will announce on april that they will go in giro.and in le tour they will be domestiques for klodi and horner.that's my wish anyway lol.

lol... can you imagine andy and frank destroying the whole peloton and in the last few km klodi and horner put the big ring and do something á la 96 riis?

i would love to see that.. especially if it was at the top of alpe or tourmalet, with horner using sunglasses and his shirt closed. no sweat. badass face, against destroyed opponents.



now that would be awesome.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

andy isn't too explosive and neither is frank so the only mountain tactic bruyneel has ever had which was controlling peloton and sprinting up final climb won;t happen because they will kill the schlecks and will benefit contador, bruyneel is very overrated tactically. yes everone can win the tour with the best riders and team in the world as us postal

 

[c&cfan]

andy isn't too explosive and neither is frank so the only mountain tactic bruyneel has ever had which was controlling peloton and sprinting up final climb won;t happen because they will kill the schlecks and will benefit contador, bruyneel is very overrated tactically. yes everone can win the tour with the best riders and team in the world as us postal

ryo, when someone says that andy will destroy the field because he is with bruynel, well.. it isn't a consequence of hog's tactics. it's something else.

 

[airstream]

Bruyneel never had to show any wonders tactics, but he is uniquely the strongest strategically and at ability to effect on the rider, make him believe in himself. Could anyone name some climbers, who is more explosive than Andy (but Contador) for the last 5-7 years?

 

[c&cfan]

Bruyneel never had to show any wonders tactics, but he is uniquely the strongest strategically and at ability to effect on the rider, make him believe in himself. Could anyone name some climbers, who is more explosive than Andy (but Contador) for the last 5-7 years?

j-rod, anton, mosquera, rasmussen, valverde, vino, simoni, cunego, pre-2006 basso, mayo, armstrong...

to the bolded part: LOL

 

[Publicus]

j-rod, anton, mosquera, rasmussen, valverde, vino, simoni, cunego, pre-2006 basso, mayo, armstrong...

to the bolded part: LOL

Thanks, saved me from having to reply to airstream--who just put the fan in fan boy with that comment.

You could add: Ricco (sorry, he had the goods however tainted he might be),

 

[c&cfan]

Thanks, saved me from having to reply to airstream--who just put the fan in fan boy with that comment.

You could add: Ricco (sorry, he had the goods however tainted he might be),

obviously. i only said those from the top of my head.. no need to talk about all of them like sella pelizotti etc etc

 

[airstream]

I just asked a question, being unsure (probably, I don't understand in fans, fanboyisms, lols and cycling so much like you), because explosiveness is always relative. Purito and Valverde, for example, are very explosive, but considering their style it gives them not a lot, besides bonus seconds. Basso is a diesel. He didn't use a punch at all. Simoni was a very powerful climber. The rider using very heavy gears a priori can't be very explosive. I'm looking into explosiveness in the context of pure climber strength and capacity to gain time using it, certainly.
For me personally, there are 3 really explosive climbers. Pantani, Armstrong and Contador. All the rest are either mountain sprinters (sorry, it is fairly a broad definition) or won rather with pure climbers' strength.

Publicus, I agree with your list partly, though presence of some comrades in it causes a slight confusion.

Guys, its really funny to read how you put Mosquera or Sella in list like that, trying to make fun of me and without any doubt that you are right.

 

[scullster46]

Yes, agree.
And because cycling is about riders, that team will gain a WorldTour license easily. When thehog heard something like that in his head, it should be clear that they will have a WT license for sure. lol
Their riders points and just their names, should combine to more than enough points to earn the teams place in toplevel of cycling and I think it is justified, isn't it ?
Of course you are right about some sponsors and their "strategy" and ethics.
Thats not really exemplary, even when riders themselfes.....

If a sponsor wants to sign long term agreements, the UCI has to assure that the money is backed and guaranteed for the whole term. To make it fair, I would give sponsors a clause to pull out at end of season, in case there should be doping-case(s).
Mainsponsors should be bounded to a minimum term of 2 years, so that there is always a buffer to look for a new sponsor and there need to be deadlines that make sense.

Whatever the UCI does regarding the rankings, systems and licenses - there will always be people crying.
I think the new ranking system is not perfect, but an improvement.
Because its about the riders.

I see your point here. Really, RNT has met all of the standards that the UCI requires for PT, except perhaps ethical standards, which may be why they weren't immediately granted pt status. My point isn't that RNT shouldn't get PT status, but that the UCI needs to take a stand at some point to show who comes first. IMO it would probably be better to pursue legal action against Geox, as what they did was a bit worse than the Leopard-Radioshack merger

 

[c&cfan]

I just asked a question, being unsure (probably, I don't understand in fans, fanboyisms and cycling so much like you), because explosiveness is always relative. Purito and Valverde, for example, are very explosive, but considering their style it gives them not a lot, besides bonus seconds. Basso is a diesel. He didn't use a punch at all. Simoni was a very powerful climber. The rider using very heavy gears a priori can't be very explosive. I'm looking into explosiveness in the context of pure climber strength and capacity to gain time using it, certainly.
Publicus, I agree with your list partly, though presence of some comrades in it causes a slight confusion.

Guys, its really funny to read how you put Mosquera or Sella in list like that, trying to make fun of me and without any doubt that you are right.

maybe you should watch 2006 giro. then you can talk about basso.
purito is almost as explosive as gilbert, valverde can outsprint pretty much anyone (except cav) at least 1 in 10 times, etc

 

[airstream]

maybe you should watch 2006 giro. then you can talk about basso.
purito is almost as explosive as gilbert, valverde can outsprint pretty much anyone (except cav) at least 1 in 10 times, etc

Not in this case. He always was a diesel. Just the result of his diesel work was different before and after suspension. OK. Explosiveness for you is an ability to drop an opponent from wheel? How it happens doesn't matter, right?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Not in this case. He always was a diesel. Just the result of his diesel work was different before and after suspension. OK. Explosiveness for you is an ability to drop an opponent from wheel? How it happens doesn't matter, right?

you are correct basso was always a diesel, in 2005 and 2006 he was so doped though he was a diesel that no one could hold it's wheel

 

[c&cfan]

Not in this case. He always was a diesel. Just the result of his diesel work was different before and after suspension. OK. Explosiveness for you is an ability to drop an opponent from wheel? How it happens doesn't matter, right?

in 2006 basso was sprinting from the bottom to the top of any climb and using the big ring. lol