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[Roku]

Help how? Mental health awareness has been growing for years now. Gen Z'ers speak about it very openly already, especially compared to older generations. What would the story of an unknown cyclist add to that?

Obviously not enough when people are still demeaning others for sharing their own story.

 

[Flamin]

Obviously not enough when people are still demeaning others for sharing their own story.

I never said there is anything wrong with sharing this kind of story, if that is what you are suggesting.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Sad story. Not sure why you would share this with the whole world though, especially as a non-publical figure. Nor does this seem the smartest thing to do from a career perspective, potentially getting labeled as mentally unstable now.

But if it helps him, good.

I see we're still living in the 1960s?

 

[Flamin]

I see we're still living in the 1960s?

What does that have to do with it? It's not because society has opened up on mental health issues, that elite sports has become 'softer' on athletes, quite the contrary I'd say, or do you think it has? It's bloody hard and will always be.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

What does that have to do with it? It's not because society has opened up on mental health issues, that elite sports has become 'softer' on athletes, quite the contrary I'd say, or do you think it has? It's bloody hard and will always be.

None of what you're saying is relevant to what I was critical about. I'm not saying sport is still like the 1960s, your way-of-thought calling someone struggling mentally 'unstable' is something from the 60s.

Having a tough time mentally doesn't make you "unstable".
Over 90% of depressive adults function perfectly allright in a society. Also the fact that he's this open and honest about it shows he has great courage and resilience.
Fortunately most people nowadays won't see it the way you see it, and because of that the world has become a better and safer place.

 

[Flamin]

None of what you're saying is relevant to what I was critical about. I'm not saying sport is still like the 1960s, your way-of-thought calling someone struggling mentally 'unstable' is something from the 60s.

Having a tough time mentally doesn't make you "unstable".
Over 90% of depressive adults function perfectly allright in a society. Also the fact that he's this open and honest about it shows he has great courage and resilience.
Fortunately most people nowadays won't see it the way you see it, and because of that the world has become a better and safer place.

It seems like you attach a heavier load to the word 'unstable' than I do. Fair enough, maybe I could/should have phrased it differently. I have great respect for (young) people struggling mentally. I wouldn't like to be a 16yo in this age.

All I am saying is that I don't think it's an advantage to be so open about it in public, especially in this early stage of his career, purely from a career perspective. Some teams might be more reluctant to hire him at some point, if let's say, he has to compete with an equally capable rider for the last spots on a team. If he becomes really good, that won't be an issue of course, since teams will take him for his (potential) results.

 

[jmdirt]

GREAT win today JB!

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Lotto for the Tour (more than likely):

The trident:
ADL
LVE
Jenno Berckmoes

Supporting cast:
Sepulveda for Lenny
Drizners and De Buyst for ADL

According to De Wouwer the other 2 will be:
De Moer
Segaert

Source: https://www.hln.be/tour-de-france/l...a-op-scherp-arnaud-plus-est-en-vous~a14a7619/

 

[Lexman]

why not Viviani? he'd be a good headliner to get some attention away from De Lie

 

[Samamba]

According to De Wouwer the other 2 will be:
De Moer
Segaert

That's not necessarily what I read. They are in the pre selection, but it would be logical is they go ofc. But I know that originally Grignard, Beullens (both were in Sierra Nevada), Thompson (I think he's out and has been replaced with Sepulveda) and Gregaard (obviously season not good enough) were also in it earlier in the season.

That article is btw a perfect example of a typical BVDC article where he frames literally everything as something negative. Sure a lot to be negative about but jeez the way he's talking about De LIe in Suisse is a joke. No *** he's one of the worst climbers there, there were like 3 sprinters present. Meeus won a stage but was also dropped in a stage where De Lie didn't get dropped, Bittners had better days but was 12 minutes down on De Lie in the last mountain stage and almost finished outside of the time limit.

why not Viviani? he'd be a good headliner to get some attention away from De Lie

Why would you take him if De Lie is going? For the 4 or 5 stages that are probably gonna be the only chances for De Lie to show himself? Viviani isn't winning a stage either. No point, he hasn't proven to be any better than De Lie. He messed up once again at Copenhagen.