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[Roku]

Help how? Mental health awareness has been growing for years now. Gen Z'ers speak about it very openly already, especially compared to older generations. What would the story of an unknown cyclist add to that?

Obviously not enough when people are still demeaning others for sharing their own story.

 

[Flamin]

Obviously not enough when people are still demeaning others for sharing their own story.

I never said there is anything wrong with sharing this kind of story, if that is what you are suggesting.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Sad story. Not sure why you would share this with the whole world though, especially as a non-publical figure. Nor does this seem the smartest thing to do from a career perspective, potentially getting labeled as mentally unstable now.

But if it helps him, good.

I see we're still living in the 1960s?

 

[Flamin]

I see we're still living in the 1960s?

What does that have to do with it? It's not because society has opened up on mental health issues, that elite sports has become 'softer' on athletes, quite the contrary I'd say, or do you think it has? It's bloody hard and will always be.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

What does that have to do with it? It's not because society has opened up on mental health issues, that elite sports has become 'softer' on athletes, quite the contrary I'd say, or do you think it has? It's bloody hard and will always be.

None of what you're saying is relevant to what I was critical about. I'm not saying sport is still like the 1960s, your way-of-thought calling someone struggling mentally 'unstable' is something from the 60s.

Having a tough time mentally doesn't make you "unstable".
Over 90% of depressive adults function perfectly allright in a society. Also the fact that he's this open and honest about it shows he has great courage and resilience.
Fortunately most people nowadays won't see it the way you see it, and because of that the world has become a better and safer place.

 

[Flamin]

None of what you're saying is relevant to what I was critical about. I'm not saying sport is still like the 1960s, your way-of-thought calling someone struggling mentally 'unstable' is something from the 60s.

Having a tough time mentally doesn't make you "unstable".
Over 90% of depressive adults function perfectly allright in a society. Also the fact that he's this open and honest about it shows he has great courage and resilience.
Fortunately most people nowadays won't see it the way you see it, and because of that the world has become a better and safer place.

It seems like you attach a heavier load to the word 'unstable' than I do. Fair enough, maybe I could/should have phrased it differently. I have great respect for (young) people struggling mentally. I wouldn't like to be a 16yo in this age.

All I am saying is that I don't think it's an advantage to be so open about it in public, especially in this early stage of his career, purely from a career perspective. Some teams might be more reluctant to hire him at some point, if let's say, he has to compete with an equally capable rider for the last spots on a team. If he becomes really good, that won't be an issue of course, since teams will take him for his (potential) results.

 

[jmdirt]

GREAT win today JB!

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Lotto for the Tour (more than likely):

The trident:
ADL
LVE
Jenno Berckmoes

Supporting cast:
Sepulveda for Lenny
Drizners and De Buyst for ADL

According to De Wouwer the other 2 will be:
De Moer
Segaert

Source: https://www.hln.be/tour-de-france/l...a-op-scherp-arnaud-plus-est-en-vous~a14a7619/

 

[Lexman]

why not Viviani? he'd be a good headliner to get some attention away from De Lie

 

[Samamba]

According to De Wouwer the other 2 will be:
De Moer
Segaert

That's not necessarily what I read. They are in the pre selection, but it would be logical is they go ofc. But I know that originally Grignard, Beullens (both were in Sierra Nevada), Thompson (I think he's out and has been replaced with Sepulveda) and Gregaard (obviously season not good enough) were also in it earlier in the season.

That article is btw a perfect example of a typical BVDC article where he frames literally everything as something negative. Sure a lot to be negative about but jeez the way he's talking about De LIe in Suisse is a joke. No *** he's one of the worst climbers there, there were like 3 sprinters present. Meeus won a stage but was also dropped in a stage where De Lie didn't get dropped, Bittners had better days but was 12 minutes down on De Lie in the last mountain stage and almost finished outside of the time limit.

why not Viviani? he'd be a good headliner to get some attention away from De Lie

Why would you take him if De Lie is going? For the 4 or 5 stages that are probably gonna be the only chances for De Lie to show himself? Viviani isn't winning a stage either. No point, he hasn't proven to be any better than De Lie. He messed up once again at Copenhagen.

 

[Samamba]

Tour going exactly as expected. Well even worse with Van Eetvelt's body ruined. It's frustrating to watch stages like today, cause they would've suited him perfectly (even tho he probably would've been in that crash). De Lie as predicted just on a holiday in France, De Buyst sick and gone. Berckmoes pretty good, doing what he can but this level is a little bit too high for him. Others are just not good enough for Tour level.

That being said. According to Vandecappelle (HLN) Heulot will be gone at the end of the year. Note that Vandecapelle kinda hates Heulot so he has every reason to exaggerate. But yeah, obviously Heulot hasn't made the best impression the last year and a half. Some riders and staff (tbf it's mainly the ones leaving) have complained about Heulot deciding everything, being a dictator, not listening to his staff and only to the most important riders, etc.

Vandecapelle also thinks the team might just fold at the end of the year, but then we get the following article in LDH

"Je suis très rassuré pour 2026" : Stéphane Heulot, CEO de l'équipe Lotto, a pu apaiser les coureurs et le staff de l'équipe Lotto

Le dirigeant français voit l'avenir plus sereinement sur le plan financier.

www.dhnet.be

So yeah no idea what Heulot means by that, as he loves lying or making it seem more positive than it is. But I'm also not immediately believing someone like Vandecapelle.

whatever it is, it's pretty obvious they missed their moment when they had a more positive vibe around them. They are doomed.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

We have a massive crevasse between a few tier one teams and the rest. When a smaller team misses a few crucial opportunities in the season it quickly turnes into a survival spiral. Hopefully Lotto can find a way.

 

[SafeBet]

Tour going exactly as expected. Well even worse with Van Eetvelt's body ruined.

What do you mean? Is he sick?

 

[Samamba]

What do you mean? Is he sick?

He crashed hard on stage 2 and he's still struggling from it.

Took anti inflammatory meds, but that messed up his stomach. His abrasions have healed well, but now he's struggling with his back again (already after his crash in nationals) meaning he can't really put serious power on the pedals.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

At least De Lie was up there, but he looks nowhere near his form from last year. Hopefully he grows in the race.

 

[Tim Cahill]

IWG and Lotto announce intention to merge

Lotto en Intermarché-Wanty voeren verregaande gesprekken over samenwerking | sporza

Er hangt een fusie tussen 2 Belgische wielerploegen in de lucht: Lotto en Intermarché-Wanty onderhandelen over hoe ze hun krachten kunnen bundelen, zo is aan onze redactie bevestigd. Beide ploegen zijn op zoek naar geldschieters en willen elkaar sterker maken. "Er is een principeakkoord", meldt...

sporza.be

Other than that it's nice to see De Lie coming into good form

 

[aruipksni]

IWG and Lotto announce intention to merge

Lotto en Intermarché-Wanty voeren verregaande gesprekken over samenwerking | sporza

Er hangt een fusie tussen 2 Belgische wielerploegen in de lucht: Lotto en Intermarché-Wanty onderhandelen over hoe ze hun krachten kunnen bundelen, zo is aan onze redactie bevestigd. Beide ploegen zijn op zoek naar geldschieters en willen elkaar sterker maken. "Er is een principeakkoord", meldt...

sporza.be

Other than that it's nice to see De Lie coming into good fo

that will have a huge repercussion on the market and the World tour obviously.

 

[pastronef]

whose contract is longer? Orbea or Cube?
also, it opens up a wild card spot and a WT spot.

 

[Berniece]

LVE is not riding Vuelta due to the injury in TDF. Why did they let him ride so long in the Tour instead of taking him out. He could’ve done a Roglic

 

[Samamba]

LVE is not riding Vuelta due to the injury in TDF. Why did they let him ride so long in the Tour instead of taking him out. He could’ve done a Roglic

Cause first scans didn't show the injury.
Also wouldn't have made the Vuelta regardless.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Ermmm, something missing here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957756353864200212

View: https://x.com/lottocycling_/status/1957756353864200212

 

[pastronef]

Ermmm, something missing here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957756353864200212

View: https://x.com/lottocycling_/status/1957756353864200212

what's missing?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

what's missing?

An 8th rider


Someone on their social media team was later heard to say "Oh Crap(s), I left him out"

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

And they have now deleted it (and the SoMe worker's contract?)

But they cannot escape screenshots:

 

[Samamba]

(and the SoMe worker's contract?

They outsource this to some random country where a girl that has no idea what cycling is does it

well I'm exaggerating cause I'm pretty sure it's Fretins girlfriend, but she's definitely bad at her job. Or team is just at fault for outsourcing it in the first place.

On the sportive side of things. They could all DNF after a few stages and no one would notice. Horrible team, as expected (without Van Eetvelt). Not really anything to look forward to.