Magnus Cort: The Man With the Bluest Moustache in the Peloton

[RedheadDane]

Yeah, I always just assumed the use of middle-names was because sen-names are rather boring. Except Jensen, Jensen is a beautiful name!
Notice how nobody is ever talking about Jakob Diemer Fuglsang? Probably because Fuglsang is unique enough as it is.

 

[stefank]

So does all of this mean we can call him what we want and it doesn't really matter?

 

[RedheadDane]

Officially, yeah. But he's mainly known as Cort in Danish media, so referring to him as Nielsen might cause some confusion.
However, M.C. Nielsen does sound a bit like a DJ...

 

[ciranda]

Re:

So does all of this mean we can call him what we want and it doesn't really matter?

No, it does matter. No, you can't call him Maggie because it sounds awful.

 

[RedheadDane]

You mean coz it sounds like a girl's name?

Now, of course the big question is this:
Did they get him a date?

 

[ciranda]

Nah, I just don't like it. Obviously they can and will do what they want.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Once again, "Concort" is much better He's fast as a concorde, and in Danish it sounds like Kong Cort which translates to King Cort (which is also nice because that last Magnus Nielsen I mentioned earlier never got to become king even though he was the natural heir to the crown (well, technically he was king of Västgötaland in Sweden but never in Denmark)).

 

[briztoon]

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You mean coz it sounds like a girl's name?

Now, of course the big question is this:
Did they get him a date?

Don't be surprised if that's part of the reason why his nickname is maggie.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

This now seems more analogous to the situation that sometimes happens in rural Ireland. For example, in the area of West Cork that I often visit, an enormous proportion of the population is called O'Sullivan. (I recently saw the Facebook page of the Adrigole U15 Gaelic Football team who were playing against my nephews' team, and 3 of the 4 coaches, and 14 of the 15 players, were O'Sullivan.)

So an unofficial surname is added, which is not necessarily part of their legal name, and is only used locally. Thus there would be a Paddy Barry O'Sullivan, Paddy Jer O'Sullivan, and Paddy Joe O'Sullivan. Barry, Jer and Joe would not be on legal documents, and will have served as an unofficial patronym for many generations. These three Paddys might each have a brother called Michael Barry, Michael Jer and Michael Joe respectively, or even sisters called Mary Barry, Mary Jer and Mary Joe. In the village, it is not helpful to talk about whether you have seen Paddy O'Sullivan recently, but you can ask after Paddy Jer (and never bother to add the O'Sullivan bit), but the same guy will have a driving licence or passport that says (eg) Patrick Anthony O'Sullivan (his middle name, as per Christopher Clive Froome, is never used in conversation)

Is the Danish situation therefore similar, except that the middle name is included in documents and not limited to local use?

 

[Thepirateisgood]

That sure was one great debut GT anyways, two wins and superstrong dom in all terrains

Poor guy, gets his own hypethread and here we go crazy on last name semantics!
Interesting topic though

 

[RedheadDane]

I really think it's just a personal choice. At some point people began to referring to him as 'Cort', might've been during his cycling career, or even earlier. If he was mostly referred to as 'Nielsen', then that's what he'd be known as.

 

[yaco]

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He had a pretty solid Paris Roubaix this year IIRC.
Didn't he ride with Hayman in the breakaway for a long time?

Cort was in the front group but started to drop off - At about the same time, Durbridge who was in the second group got a puncture and Cort gave Durbridge his wheel.

 

[TMP402]

The People's Cort.

 

[42x16ss]

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He had a pretty solid Paris Roubaix this year IIRC.
Didn't he ride with Hayman in the breakaway for a long time?

Cort was in the front group but started to drop off - At about the same time, Durbridge who was in the second group got a puncture and Cort gave Durbridge his wheel.

Yeah, Cort couldn't quite handle the pace when Hayman, Sky and Etixx upped things with about 60kms to go and Durbridge was riding well too so handing over a wheel made sense.

Overall, it was a very solid effort for a young rider at their first Roubaix. With a Grand Tour in his legs now, Cort should go even better next year. With Cort, Hayman, Docker, Keukeleire and Durbridge, Orica should show well again next year.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Magnus "Viking" Cort, ended up 19th overall in Criterium Dauphine, after spending the entire race as a domestique....... and he is a sprinter.

I'm deeply impressed, and think he is going to ride an awesome Tour.

 

[Lequack]

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Magnus "Viking" Cort, ended up 19th overall in Criterium Dauphine, after spending the entire race as a domestique....... and he is a sprinter.

I'm deeply impressed, and think he is going to ride an awesome Tour.

Yeah I was really impressed by his climbing.

 

[yaco]

His performances have been interesting - Left Mitchelton Scott because he felt his talents weren't being fully developed as a classics rider, yet his classic form has not improved and maybe has regressed a touch - His sprinting level is about the same but his climbing form has gone through the roof - Can remember the 2016/2017 Vuelta - Once he reached a cat 2 climb that was the end.

 

[quadrago]

Met him before Dauphine, he is extremely thin. Definitely think he has done the right thing, but not sure he has a power finish anymore. Not really sure what he is going to target next year. Hilly classics and hard stages?

 

[Nirvana]

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His performances have been interesting - Left Mitchelton Scott because he felt his talents weren't being fully developed as a classics rider, yet his classic form has not improved and maybe has regressed a touch - His sprinting level is about the same but his climbing form has gone through the roof - Can remember the 2016/2017 Vuelta - Once he reached a cat 2 climb that was the end.

Also his sprint has regressed and a lot, this year never a top 10 in a mass sprint, last year at the Tour he finished 7th in a sprint but after the sprinters mass abandon on the Alps and even van Avermaet and Lampaert finished in front of him, some years ago he was able to win in mass sprints.
His evolution reminds the one of Rojas that from second tier sprinter able to win mass sprints and even to battle for the green jersey at the Tour in 2011 has become a mountain domestique.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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His performances have been interesting - Left Mitchelton Scott because he felt his talents weren't being fully developed as a classics rider, yet his classic form has not improved and maybe has regressed a touch - His sprinting level is about the same but his climbing form has gone through the roof - Can remember the 2016/2017 Vuelta - Once he reached a cat 2 climb that was the end.

IIRC he was in the breaks on some fairly difficult mountain stages in La Vuelta 2016, doing good work for Chaves or Yates. I think it's fair to say he was a relatively good climber for a supposed sprinter back then, also.

 

[ciranda]

Re: Magnus "Maggie" Cort

Although Magnus is really fast he has never been a sprinter and clearly his heart is not in that. As an under 23 he won type five km uphill finishes with competition like Muhlberger and Konrad. It was just that the knucklehead Orica directors wanted him to do strictly sprinting.

 

[RedheadDane]

Right, I regret the "Maggie" bit in the title.
Any ideas?

 

[tobydawq]

Re:

Right, I regret the "Maggie" bit in the title.
Any ideas?

As long as it ends in "thread", I'm happy.

 

[yaco]

Re: Re:

His performances have been interesting - Left Mitchelton Scott because he felt his talents weren't being fully developed as a classics rider, yet his classic form has not improved and maybe has regressed a touch - His sprinting level is about the same but his climbing form has gone through the roof - Can remember the 2016/2017 Vuelta - Once he reached a cat 2 climb that was the end.

IIRC he was in the breaks on some fairly difficult mountain stages in La Vuelta 2016, doing good work for Chaves or Yates. I think it's fair to say he was a relatively good climber for a supposed sprinter back then, also.

Getting in a break and leading the yellow jersey holder up cat 1 climbs is completely different - You may remember the stage that Keukeliere won at the 2016 Vuelta which featured two Cat 2 climbs in the last 30kms - Cort finished 19 minutes behind, yet won 2 sprint stages later in the Vuelta.

 

[Bushman]

Re: Magnus "Maggie" Cort

Although Magnus is really fast he has never been a sprinter and clearly his heart is not in that. As an under 23 he won type five km uphill finishes with competition like Muhlberger and Konrad. It was just that the knucklehead Orica directors wanted him to do strictly sprinting.

Well, I think the ‘problem’ is that he has the explosivity and power but not the heart and mentality of a sprinter as you say, he always struggled with positioning in bunch sprints. I’m surprised by how well he was climbing in Dauphine but I guess he is able to realize his potential as an all-rounder, which he showed as espoirs, now that he is allowed to focus less on his sprinting.

His talents are clearly better suited to being aggressive and riding with freedom rather than sitting in the bunch waiting for the last 200 metres.