Teams & Riders Mark Cavendish Discussion Thread

[movingtarget]

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If it had been any other rider than Sagan taking him out like that he would be furious.

True: you don't want a PR war, popularity contest against Sagan. You can't win.

Not being 100%, with no trai, he has to take chances. And Cav is willing to take crazy risks...as he did today. You got to give him that: he's fearless. Good to hear that he's OK.

Exactly and thats the problem with Sagan; aint nobody want to say anything bad about him. Greipel did today, chapeau.

It seems that Greipel has changed his mind after watching the video.

 

[yaco]

The good that comes out of this sad affair is that Sagan and possibly Cavendish can ride the Vuelta.

 

[canarydan23]

When people mention Haussler I assume their referring to Switzerland 2010? I'm struggling to see the relevance. That crash happened smack bang in the middle of the road, not pushed up against a barrier, and it was Haussler's wheel moving into Cavendish that actually caused them to come down. Cav was certainly part culpable for drifting across but it's not in any way whatsoever like what Sagan did yesterday.

 

[Ruby United]

Next year he will be 33.
Every year Merckx seems to get further away.
Every year we risk losing the greatest sprinter ever too age.

 

[Der Effe]

Great words by Cav on the CN frontpage. He seems self aware and shows that he has grown into being a respectful human being. Many people can learn from that.

 

[spalco]

Just watched today's stage finish - man, if Boasson Hagen can get that close, Cavendish for sure could have taken a couple stages this year with such a leadout.

 

[kingjr]

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Just watched today's stage finish - man, if Renshaw can get that close, Cavendish for sure could have taken a couple stages this year with such a leadout.

pff ninja edit

 

[spalco]

Hah!

 

[oldcrank]

Very pleased to hear Cav is thinking about
riding the Madison at the Tokyo Olympics!

 

[Ruby United]

Very pleased to hear Cav is thinking about
riding the Madison at the Tokyo Olympics!

I feel like whenever he thinks about track, his road racing falters.
He should be fully focused on Merckx at the moment and the number 34.

 

[Jspear]

Very pleased to hear Cav is thinking about
riding the Madison at the Tokyo Olympics!

I feel like whenever he thinks about track, his road racing falters.
He should be fully focused on Merckx at the moment and the number 34.

He had an amazing Tour after thinking about track.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Plus he has awhile before 2020. More then enough time to get 35 TDF wins and beat Merckx GT stage win total.

 

[oldcrank]

It was only a couple of weeks ago that a few
mates and I were wondering whether Team GB
would be represented by riders from "the old
guard" or the new generation in the Madison
at the Tokyo Olympics.

SuperG was discussed as an option because of
his 2012 World Champs Madison silver partnered
with Swifty and also UIV Cup wins even longer
ago with both Cav and Swifty.

I would really love to see Cav and SuperG team
up for one or two Sixes over the next couple of
winters without messing too much with their
road programs, because we still don't know the
exact qualification rules and regs for participation
in the Tokyo Madison.

If the Olympic rules require them to also ride the
team pursuit, I'm not sure that would work out,
but it is possible road team positions could be
used ... like Germany used a mountain bike spot
for Forstemann and France used a road spot for
Bourgain at London 2012.

 

[TMP402]

It was only a couple of weeks ago that a few
mates and I were wondering whether Team GB
would be represented by riders from "the old
guard" or the new generation in the Madison
at the Tokyo Olympics.

I was thinking about the team pursuit team recently. In 08, 12 and 16 you had the likes of Wiggins, Thomas and Kennaugh who obviously all had or would have road experience at a high level. Clancy will be 35, Burke 33, and Tennant 33. They are veterans on the track but I wonder if British Cycling like to have a road rider for that little something extra. Last time you had Wiggins and Doull, former and future high-level road guys respectively. In 12 you had Thomas and Kennaugh.

I think they'll want to bring through youngsters because Clancy/Burke/Tennant surely can't last until 2024. So I think for the team pursuit team at least there's probably no need for anyone from the road to return. I suppose theoretically Kennaugh could go until 2024.

 

[TMP402]

Mark Christian and Andrew Fenn are two other guys who could theoretically last until 2024 if the returned to the track.

 

[oldcrank]

Going by his performance at the London Six Day,
Cav looks to be an early front runner for selection
to the British madison team at the 2020 Olympics,
keeping in mind the start of the qualification period
is still a year away and the UCI/IOC haven't finalised
the qualification criteria/process yet.

Cav is also looking good to resume chasing Eddie's
Tour stage win record ... and riding a bit of track
over the winter is exactly what Eddie himself did
'back in the day'.

 

[Strawberry_Jams]

Thats cool that its back in. A bit of a lottery, maybe he wants to do something he has more control over? Team pursuit/Omnium. I hope he does the madison as it won't take too much away from the road.

Partner? Thomas/Wood/Latham/Dibben/Swift/Yates?

also is he doing gent?

 

[SHAD0W93]

Stinks Peter and him didn't win.

 

[oldcrank]

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Thats cool that its back in. A bit of a lottery, maybe he wants to do something he has more control over? Team pursuit/Omnium. I hope he does the madison as it won't take too much away from the road.

Partner? Thomas/Wood/Latham/Dibben/Swift/Yates?

also is he doing gent?

I have no idea about Gent, but I'd love to see Cav and
Pete K. ride the Madison at the Manchester World Cup
which is a couple of days before the Gent Six starts.

 

[jmdirt]

He has hit the ground hard several times this year already. Hopefully he can get things rolling because I prefer seeing more teams battling at the front on flat sages.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Oh come on Cav. I hope he wins in the Tour than goes to the Vuelta.

 

[dziny]

Maybe give up on road and focus on track? Less potholes there for sure. Or get these?
Wheel Stabiliser Kit

 

[Tonton]

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Plus he has awhile before 2020. More then enough time to get 35 TDF wins and beat Merckx GT stage win total.

I hope that he never gets to 34. As good as he is (was, actually), he doesn't deserve to be in any discussion involving Merckx. No disrespect here, but let's be real.

I don't think that he's one of the 5, or maybe 10 best sprinters in the World anymore. I'm not sure that he can win another stage. No more super train, in decline, he stands just about the same chances as Nacer. There will always be at least one guy faster than he is. Unless he takes crazy risks, even more than he did in his prime: desperate people do desperate things, and that's how you crash.

 

[Son of Amsterhammer]

Wow did he look in bad shape. I don’t know....maybe it is time to hang it up. Maybe see this season through and see if it’s still worth it.

 

[SHAD0W93]

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Plus he has awhile before 2020. More then enough time to get 35 TDF wins and beat Merckx GT stage win total.

I hope that he never gets to 34. As good as he is (was, actually), he doesn't deserve to be in any discussion involving Merckx. No disrespect here, but let's be real.

I don't think that he's one of the 5, or maybe 10 best sprinters in the World anymore. I'm not sure that he can win another stage. No more super train, in decline, he stands just about the same chances as Nacer. There will always be at least one guy faster than he is. Unless he takes crazy risks, even more than he did in his prime: desperate people do desperate things, and that's how you crash.

I hope he does because he is my favorite rider right now and who brought me into cycling in 09. Let's say he does beat Merckx's record or ties it, there still shouldn't be a discussion between the 2 because they are totally different. The only comparison should be between him and Cipo and in my opinion he is better.

He showed in 2016 that he can still compete and beat the best. I believe and hope that he can show that same level of performance. 2017 even after being sick and racing almost no days he was still up there and if he wasn't sick he could have won the stages he contested. As of now after his crashes and barely any race days absolutely he isn't in the top 5 but in my opinion he is in top 10. The only people that will be a problem are Kittel, Greipel, and Gav. If he is finally able to get form he can beat anyone.

He has shown he doesn't need a train and with etix he did terrible with their train. He just needs to keep racing which comes to the next point on crashes. Yes some of the crashes are his fault but there is quite a bit of crashes that he gets the blame because of his reputation when they aren't his fault.

Yes he always wants to win and is desperate because of terrible last year he had that is getting into his head this year. Desperation is what led to his crash in 14 with Gerrans and what caused him to only get 1 stage in 15. He is in the same position as Contador with crashing and I hope he gets out of it.

Sorry for the long reply.