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Teams & Riders Mark Cavendish Discussion Thread

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Rackham said:
It looks like DQS don't want to take Cavendish to the Tour next year, so he probably has to make a decision based on how much he wants to beat that Merckx record.

A team like Israel doesn't have the train, doesn't have the race craft & doesn't have the same power, but, they could offer him a guaranteed Tour start not just next year but the year after as well if he maintains his form. So he could get multiple chances to chase that record.

And if the sticking point in the negotiations is really about money, then Cavendish & Lefevere probably deserve each other. IMO.
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ISN makes sense, thinking about it. They have some guys who know their way around a leadout (Zabel, Impey) and a couple of solid TT engines for the late kms. They’re losing Dan Martin, so a climbing spot with (presumably) a decent wage attached is freed up, which could be filled by a sprinter.

I think it’s unlikely, but it’s not impossible.
 
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SHAD0W93 said:
Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Cav said he’s fine with not riding the Tour and PL just wants to pay him less. Or he is willing to be paid less but wants to be on the other side of the team when he retires.


He and the team already showed that this year with only 1 stage win having a leadout. 4/5 sprints they got overtaken by another team and Cav had to do it himself.
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That statement is a bit harsh on DQ and not so true. The only stage win without real leadout and with Cavendish sprinting on his own was the first one.

On one of the wins Morkov leaves him right behind Philipssen. That was perfect positioning.

On the stage where Ballerini attacks (which was a bit messy and indeed a bit of a failure) he nevertheleses was in third position behind Morkov and Cortina, who launched the sprint way too far to try and catch Ballerini (so he was indeed in perfect position).
 
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Roku said:
That statement is a bit harsh on DQ and not so true. The only stage win without real leadout and with Cavendish sprinting on his own was the first one.

On one of the wins Morkov leaves him right behind Philipssen. That was perfect positioning.

On the stage where Ballerini attacks (which was a bit messy and indeed a bit of a failure) he nevertheleses was in third position behind Morkov and Cortina, who launched the sprint way too far to try and catch Ballerini (so he was indeed in perfect position).
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4/5 at the Tour and 7/9 for the year he used the other sprinters and their leadout. Maybe it comes down to not riding with together as much and not knowing the other but Cav went off the other sprinters slipstream and trains instead of trusting Morkov and Quickstep. Maybe he remember how Quickstep was repeatedly overtaken because they thought they were HTC his first go around because they kept having to do more work then everyone else.

He left Morkov’s wheel, Morkov was trying to lead him out on the second stage. He left it because Morkov would have had to put a big dog to have him come up alongside Philipsen. Morkov doesn’t know Cav left his wheel till he’s passing him.
Edit: He is on Morkov’s wheel both side by side with Merlier and Philipsen. Rickman(I forget his name) comes off his leadout, cuts in front of Morkov and Cav moves over to Philipsen’s wheel. Morkov is still sprinting to lead out Cav before he sees him go by on Philipsen’s wheel. There was no drop off, Morkov wouldn’t have been still trying to lead him out if he knew. Cav left his wheel, without Morkov knowing.

Third stage win they panicked because they were overtaken (again) and Morkov went for it himself when he saw Cav wasn’t on his wheel and couldn’t locate him at 300 to go. Morkov was also going 3-4 km/hr then Philipsen was. Initially he was going 10(!) km/hr faster then Philipsen who is sprinting full on to catch up. He had no idea where Cav was till he passed him at 25 to go.

Quickstep gets overrun a lot in sprints from working too much and other teams overtaking them.
 
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