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Cadel Evans wins again, brilliant. Hopefully he can ride well in the Tour, although I doubt he can win it.
@dlwssonic
for evans sake, and the tour I hope not.
Better he rides a conservative ride, and keeps his best for the tour.
Too bad he will get owned by gesink in the real mountains.
so yeah your right, he may as well go for dauphine
for evans sake, and the tour I hope not.
Better he rides a conservative ride, and keeps his best for the tour.
Too bad he will get owned by gesink in the real mountains.
so yeah your right, he may as well go for dauphine
Waterloo Sunrise said:
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=20255
Victory.
Ta for the tip Roundy.
Timmy-loves-Rabo said:@dlwssonic
for evans sake, and the tour I hope not.
Better he rides a conservative ride, and keeps his best for the tour.
Too bad he will get owned by gesink in the real mountains.
so yeah your right, he may as well go for dauphine
he seems to want to compete in every race he enters so he has a good chance at the dauphine. nah not gesink, he will probably be par with gesink in the mountains. To be honest andy schleck will trash them.
dlwssonic said:
Gesink, in the past has been a better climber then evans, so if he gets his form right for july I don't think he will have much trouble beating evans, who has never bee good enough in the real mountains of a GT. Already at vuelta 09' gesink was owning evans. Obviously he will have to ride a lot better then recently tho. But the reason for his form has been discussed to death in other threads, no need to discuss it more. Plus I was just kidding/trolling with my post
I've said for a long time, evans is better on the short punchy climbs. He should have concentrated on classics more throughout his career.
Timmy-loves-Rabo said:Gesink, in the past has been a better climber then evans, so if he gets his form right for july I don't think he will have much trouble beating evans, who has never bee good enough in the real mountains of a GT. Already at vuelta 09' gesink was owning evans. Obviously he will have to ride a lot better then recently tho. But the reason for his form has been discussed to death in other threads, no need to discuss it more. Plus I was just kidding/trolling with my post
I've said for a long time, evans is better on the short punchy climbs. He should have concentrated on classics more throughout his career.
yea evans is good diesel engine for those short steep climbs, but he has become better at it the past few years. if evans peaks well he should be able to hang in there with the other favorites. but not andy schleck and contador.
gesink is a better Timetrialer now, his climbing has seemed to deproved this year. But hopefully its the result of his form
superconfex said:
I'm waiting for the eurosport highlights, so didn't see the race. Why was wiggo in trouble?
dlwssonic said:
This has always been one of his biggest problems. It's one of the things that has won him many fans, but has also harmed his palmarès as he's often been in his peak form at the wrong time for his big targets (think 2009 where he rode himself silly trying to drop Valverde in the Dauphiné, then was horrendously off form even before he got ill in the Tour), or expended in energy in comparatively meaningless events. Valverde always used to do the Tour and Vuelta. It was only when he was barred from the Tour that he actually managed to win the Vuelta. Contador, however, has podiumed the Dauphiné twice in a row (not that he didn't try to win in 2010), but riding at less than peak form. If Cadel wins the Dauphiné I'd worry for his Tour chances.
Libertine Seguros said:
yea true. but why was he so terrible in the 2009 tour de france. what was the cause. was it only his poor form? sorry because my first cycling race was the 2009 tour de france and I didnt know a **** about it. the only person i knew was lance and the only race i knew was the tour de france.
Kinda funny...doesn't Gesink have exactly the same 'problem' as Evans? Wants to be good everywhere...can't really peak.
auscyclefan94 said:
Yeah, good for him. Especially after his mini-comeback from the crash several weeks ago.
dlwssonic said:
watch out next fish the dauphine libere!
Dauphine? I was wondering what was next up for him.
yeah gotta admire cadel's superfast recovery.he definitely looks better and better for le tour.
vino did ok though.i mean even the itt was very good.
vino did ok though.i mean even the itt was very good.
Dekker_Tifosi said:
It has been a while since Oscarito has beat out an elite field of sprinters isn't it?
Moondance said:
Some may not care for his past teamsmanship from his days with big Jan, but he's still as animated as always.
Indeed, which is something I've been trying to point out quite a while now.on3m@n@rmy said:
But everytime I get replies like "But he won (INSERT 260KM RACE WITH HILLS HERE) against good sprinters, so he isn't slow".
Or "But he won (INSERT RACE WITH VERY HILLY PROFILE) against some good sprinters".
Or "But he had his best ardennes campaign ever, so he isn't getting worse", etcetera.
While all I've been trying to say that in top speed, he's nowhere near his old self anymore and already has trouble beating second string sprinters. Which was again proven today.
Then again, lately I'm wondering if there are even some top sprinters besides Cavendish. Because I'm seeing Farrar, Greipel and Petacchi beaten by Guardini (most notably) and now even Van Hummel for crying out loud
superconfex said:
I think Wiggins wa 4th man and puled off at 2km to go and I think looked chase down Vino when he attacked as well.
no doubt oscarito lacks his old speed. when he won M-SR last year and P-T his wins were just following the wheel of some1 till the last 50 meters where he used his still decent kick to get over them ofc that will never work on a 200k long flat stage. so his chances of winning a mass sprint are pretty much none this days, even with his amazing positioning skills. still you can never discount oscarito for a 260k race with some hills and a though sprint in it.
i would really really love to see him wining this years worlds and get his forth. he deserves it because he is an absolute natural on long though races.
p.s. i thinking being one of the most loved guys in the peloton by the fans (dunno about the riders) makes it hard for the fans to admit that he is slowly fading away with age, it does for me(i admit i edited the pcm db to increase his decline age XD)
i would really really love to see him wining this years worlds and get his forth. he deserves it because he is an absolute natural on long though races.
p.s. i thinking being one of the most loved guys in the peloton by the fans (dunno about the riders) makes it hard for the fans to admit that he is slowly fading away with age, it does for me(i admit i edited the pcm db to increase his decline age XD)
jens_attacks said:
I'm hoping Vino is his old self at the Tour. I think he will try all kinds of things. The Tour NEEDS someone like him to stir up the pot and put some pressure on other contenders who are content to wait things out.
on3m@n@rmy said:
yeah. couldn't agree more.
i don't like him as a a person, but i admire, highly respect and enjoy his aggressive and risky way of riding, fighting and attacking.
Bavarianrider said:How come Tony finished 7th in a mss sprint today?
Mostly the lack of real sprinters in the field, I guess. The way Sky stretched things out may have helped too.
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