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McQuaid: Cut Down the Giro and Vuelta, Embrace California

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Does anyone think the UCi will ever hold this much power over the Giro and the Vuelta organizers to make this plan happen?

I think this will only further make sure that especially Zomegnan will take a long hard look at the agreement between the UCI and the organizer of the GTs about which teams are allowed to ride the giro. Do I see another Radioshack style event happening again at the giro next year:cool:
 

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Bravo McQuaid. Not to dis you Europeans but in order to clean the scourge of you no what(prohibited substances) the GTs need to be easier and shorter.
Don't believe me ask a pro rider. I would add smaller teams in GTs also.
Also since cycling is an international sport it is important for the sport to have big races around the globe.
McQuaid is right, look at where the majority of the frames and components are made. Asia, correct? Where are the majority of bicycles sold? USA, North America, South America, Australia.
Cycling is an international sport, we need BIG races internationally.
 
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I do wish people would stop saying that the Giro d'Italia is in competition with the Tour of California. It's like saying that the Tour de France is in competition with the Österreich Rundfahrt.

I wouldn't necessarily be totally opposed to shorter grand tours, but if it were to happen I'd like to see it applied to all three rather than just the Giro and Vuelta.
 
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It's funny to see that in the last part of his statement he tries to keep a good relationship with ASO by saying "...we can't touch Tour de France, it's our shopping window..." as in past the fightings were mainly between ASO vs UCI.
 
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You have to admit. Every time you think McQuaid isn't able to make a more stupid remark than his last one, he comes out to prove you wrong. But for the first 20 years I don't think we have to be afraid of the Giro being made shorter or moved on the calender. The Vuelta of course is a different subject.

Anyway, do we really need a new topic every time McQuaid says something stupid?
 
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But for the first 20 years I don't think we have to be afraid of the Giro being made shorter or moved on the calender.

You're absolutely correct on that - it's inconceivable. The thing I love about Zomegnan is that he seems to genuinely believe that the Giro is now more important than the Tour. It doesn't matter whether it's true or not, or how many people agree with him - he believes it and is totally self-confident in that belief.

Edit: And ironically enough, I think the the UCI, McQuaid and Tour of California promoters' attitudes have played a major role in that.
 
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Hahaha, the stupidity is endless :D How could this man become the president of UCI :confused: Does he really believe in what he says? To reduce the duration of the Giro and Vuelta? :D
 
Pat Mcquaid.


They say hate is more powerful than love. I agree. Pat Mcquaid has earnt my hate and i will enjoy his misfortune.


Take the Tour of California and shove it up your **** you ******* ******* ****** ******** son of a ******** ****** *******(you get the point)
 

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Barrus said:
Does anyone think the UCi will ever hold this much power over the Giro and the Vuelta organizers to make this plan happen?

I think this will only further make sure that especially Zomegnan will take a long hard look at the agreement between the UCI and the organizer of the GTs about which teams are allowed to ride the giro. Do I see another Radioshack style event happening again at the giro next year:cool:

Ding, ding.

The owners of the Tour & Giro (ASO & RCS) have plenty of power - so the Tour & Giro will be fine.
Then ASO has a major stake in the Vuelta - ASO vs UCI, only one winner there.

I am all for introducing new events in new countries but there are other dates in the calender (particularly August/September) for new events and nothing to be gained by starting another war against the GT organizers.
 

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Dutchsmurf said:
You have to admit. Every time you think McQuaid isn't able to make a more stupid remark than his last one, he comes out to prove you wrong. But for the first 20 years I don't think we have to be afraid of the Giro being made shorter or moved on the calender. The Vuelta of course is a different subject.

Anyway, do we really need a new topic every time McQuaid says something stupid?

Sorry in the US there is little interest in those races(Vuelta,Giro)

No coverage outside of cycling mags and computer cycling geeks. The Vuelta and Giro GTs are absolutly alien to our US culture. If you want to have the sport grow, the markets need to be expanded. Listen to McQuaid.
 

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The Hitch said:
Pat Mcquaid.


They say hate is more powerful than love. I agree. Pat Mcquaid has earnt my hate and i will enjoy his misfortune.


Take the Tour of California and shove it up your *** you motherless f****** c**** a******.

Hitch, your hate of cycling is more powerful than my love for cycling. Yes I bow down to thee. I will heckle the start of a stage in the tour of California start in my town(Seaside). Please send me a hate banner so that I can display it in my front window!
 
ok i have been wantinhg to ask this for a long time:

WHO THE FUDGE PUT THIS SON OF A NOT SO GOOD WOMEM IN CHARGE OF CYCLING?




P.S. flicker stop trolling.

p.p.s. cycling has done fine without the US for the past 100 years it sure doesn't need them now. besides asia has more power then the us now so . . .
 
Cycling is growing not declining. We want more cycling not less.

As i said before the best way to bring in a outside europe race into the big league would be to hold it right at the end of the season. That means OCtober - November, giving the Tour riders a chance at a second gt, not cutting down the existing ones, and globalising the sport (in both directions).

Sorry Cali your climate doesnt cut it. Nor does your history.

One country that does however is Colombia (+ venezuela bolivia and equador if need be). It has more history, a better climate and better riders.

Any 4th gt can only ever be held there, as a way of expanding this thing of ours, and not in Cali at the way of pimping it out for money and in the proccess destroying it - which is were prostitution usually leads. Short term gain, long term destruction.
 
Growth and Control

Pat and Hein know their way to becoming more wealthy and more powerful is through developing the sport in other places where the UCI gets to control the entire product.

Think about it this way, which would the UCI want more,

1. independent race organizations that control the rights to their events and work at arm's length to the UCI. The UCI generates very little revenue in these situations.
2. events where the UCI owns the media rights whose promoters serve at the mercy of the UCI.

Then imagine that the UCI starts scheduling their events opposite the independent race organizations like, say, the Giro 'd Italia? The UCI event wins the war in every case except the Tour de France.

This 'total control' is a signature Weisel/Armstrong strategy.
 
Dr. Maserati said:
I am all for introducing new events in new countries but there are other dates in the calender (particularly August/September) for new events and nothing to be gained by starting another war against the GT organizers.

100 % agree with that.cycling is not just for europeans but for christ's sake don't fucc with the traditional races.i don't know why but i think zomegnan will strike uci big time.if that rat continues with "cut down giro,vuelta" non-sense,zomegnan will make his own rules.and that will be a good thing.
 
flicker said:
Sorry in the US there is little interest in those races(Vuelta,Giro) ... Listen to McQuaid.

Sorry, the rest of the cycling world does not need to revolve around what you would term "US interest". People who share your attitude (of which McQaeda, evidently) cannot just waltz in and buy class and tradition. It just looks cheap on you.
 
i can see a giro this year with all teams picked by zomegman. problem is with that radioshack is prolly missing another GT wich wouldn't bother me much if they didn't have tiago machado ready to leade at the giro <_<