McQuaid surpresses Aldag interview

[sniper]

McQuaid surpresses Aldag interview?

Aldag interview has been removed from the cycling news website.

Is one phonecall from McQuaid all it takes?

For what it's worth, here's the full interview in German (Sueddeutsche Zeitung):

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/sz...der-sport-ist-nicht-das-wahre-leben-1.1255236

EDIT:
If this is the result of UCI action (which I suspect but for which I lack proof), it would be an infringement of press freedom and a sign of just how transparent the UCI wants to be.

 

[sniper]

from the other thread

Article has been deleted from CN!!

Quote was there today:

"Aldag said that UCI president Pat McQuaid should be removed from office for accepting a $125,000 donation from Lance Armstrong without correctly presenting the transaction to the public. “In real life you would say: No one survives an affair like that. One should say: McQuaid did not tell the truth, and he is in that position (as UCI President - ed.), therefore he should go!” Aldag said."

Yes, it was.
Cached cached
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[mtb Dad]

Aldag interview has been removed from the cycling news website.

UCI-transparency reaches new depths.

@Cyclingnews editors: Is one phonecall from McQuaid really all it takes?

For what it's worth, here's the full interview in German (Sueddeutsche Zeitung):

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/sz...der-sport-ist-nicht-das-wahre-leben-1.1255236

Anyone make a copy? What did it say?

 

[Cobblestoned]

Anyone make a copy? What did it say?

The full interview is avaible in the print edition.
Rolf was missing the democracy in pro cycling.

Also attacking Saint Holzer. Season is heating up.

Always good for a laugh, our Dumbo.

 

[hrotha]

Any info suggesting the UCI did anything to get the article deleted, or are you just jumping to conclusions as usual?

 

[Granville57]

Anyone make a copy? What did it say?

Um, did you see my link above?

 

[Anonymous]

Um, did you see my link above?

They moved some of the thread, but not the important part. I will re-post it here:

Yes, it was.
Cached cached
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MI1mCIDHAl8J:www.cyclingnews.com/news/aldag-blasts-uci-mcquaid-and-pro-cycling+Aldag+said+that+UCI+president+Pat+McQuaid+should+be+removed+from+office%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Fat ******* thinks he can beat the internets. Stupid Fat *******.

 

[Escarabajo]

Any info suggesting the UCI did anything to get the article deleted, or are you just jumping to conclusions as usual?

Stirring the pot. What is wrong with that?

Actually I loved what Aldag said.

 

[hrotha]

Stirring the pot. What is wrong with that?

Actually I loved what Aldag said.

The thread is called "McQuaid suppresses Aldag interview" and unambiguously says this is the UCI's doing, but fails to put forward any info pointing in that direction. If there's anything I have missed, it would be good to include it in the OP, otherwise this goes beyond stirring the pot and right into making up stuff.

 

[sniper]

The thread is called "McQuaid suppresses Aldag interview" and unambiguously says this is the UCI's doing, but fails to put forward any info pointing in that direction. If there's anything I have missed, it would be good to include it in the OP, otherwise this goes beyond stirring the pot and right into making up stuff.

Can you think of anybody else who would have (a) an interest in having the article removed AND (b) the power/influence to have it removed?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

The thread is called "McQuaid suppresses Aldag interview" and unambiguously says this is the UCI's doing, but fails to put forward any info pointing in that direction. If there's anything I have missed, it would be good to include it in the OP, otherwise this goes beyond stirring the pot and right into making up stuff.

When I read it on the other thread I was surprised to see it had disappeared.
It certainly is curious as to why it was there and then removed - and yes, it is a leap to assume that the UCI or Pat looked for it to be taken down.

So I am sure if there was a screenshot neither Pat or CN would complain if it was posted here ...........

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Oh, look what I found on another tab..........


(Edit - I will edit out the sides and paste back a smaller version of the original as it is too wide)

 

[sniper]

The thread is called "McQuaid suppresses Aldag interview" and unambiguously says this is the UCI's doing, but fails to put forward any info pointing in that direction. If there's anything I have missed, it would be good to include it in the OP, otherwise this goes beyond stirring the pot and right into making up stuff.

Can you think of anybody else who would have (a) an interest in having the article removed AND (b) the power/influence to have it removed?

If this is the result of UCI action (which I suspect but for which I lack proof), it would be an infringement of press freedom and a sign of just how transparent the UCI wants to be.

Oh, look what I found on another tab..........

 

[BroDeal]

Can you think of anybody else who would have (a) an interest in having the article removed AND (b) the power/influence to have it removed?

If this is the result of UCI action (which I suspect but for which I lack proof), it would be an infringement of press freedom and a sign of just how transparent the UCI wants to be.

Does anyone know if McQuaid took a recent vacation to Israel?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Does anyone know if McQuaid took a recent vacation to Israel?

This was seen outside Pats house today.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I realize this is the Clinic, and some humor is abound, but go a little easy on posts that may be seen as culturally offensive, if possible. Thank you.

 

[python]

appreciate your note, alp !

may be i missed something or some input was deleted before i got to see it, but given the actual recent events (the chief judge of riis' star rider being accused of ethics) i found dr. mas humour as usual splendid, subtle and harmless. brodeal's irony was also very much on target yet innocuous in in my view. cheers.

ps. apologies, just read your post in the mod thread. no comments.

 

[Race Radio]

As much as I think Fat Pat is a fool I really doubt that CN would take down the story because he called them. The original is still up in German and it will likely be covered in many Cycling websites so it would be silly to hassle CN

Aldag is another story. Even though he is semi out of cycling this interview will focus a ton of heat on him. I expect there will be some kind of "I was miss-quoted".....even though he was not. He was just voicing the same feelings most in the sport have, Pat is a joke

 

[craig1985]

Do you think Aldag has any credibility (as an ex-doper) in what he says?

 

[Martin318is]

Do you think Aldag has any credibility (as an ex-doper) in what he says?

If he were to tag his comments with "unlike our team" etc then yes it would look bad but the reality is these are comments from someone who is nolonger in a stressful position in cycling. They can be taken pretty much on face value I think.

 

[mtb Dad]

Um, did you see my link above?

yup. Thanks.

 

[Stingray34]

A question Aldag could face is, 'Why didn't you say so sooner?' Obviously, when he was a DS for a World Tour team he had a vested interest in not rocking the boat. But that also means he can't really speak out with any credibility against anyone who still has a vested interest. They're not doing anything he hasn't done.

A lot of people in cycling don't like the way things are, think it's wrong and would like change to occur. Yet they don't do shyte about it until they leave cycling and when someone else butters their toast. This makes them weak-willed and, frankly (Mr Shankly), cowards.

If Tyler says cycling is a mafia, and I'm sure his right, and Fat Pat is the Don I can also see why speaking out is so difficult. Poor female professionals are forced to retract statements about our Dear Leader (I can't wait to hear Pat's operas, symphonies and see his feature films.) Yet change can only occur from within, when interested parties decide they no longer like playing with a stacked deck. A little law enforcement would help in this regard, too.

Wake up, Jeff!*


























*Not an appeal to Jeff Novitzsky. I just like inserting Wiggles songs into everyday conversation.

 

[sniper]

Those who think UCI wasn't directly involved in the removal of the interview are invited to provide some alternative view on why it was removed.

i think it's quite safe to assume someone from within the UCI made a phonecall.

There is nothing unearthly about that, but it shows once more: transparency is the UCI's greatest enemy.

 

[spalco]

I love what Aldag said about Holczer too, very true. He's definitely pretty close to the top of my "people I despise most in cycling" list.

 

[hrotha]

Those who think UCI wasn't directly involved in the removal of the interview are invited to provide some alternative view on why it was removed.

That's not how it works. Burden of proof and all that.
But regardless, RR aleady did.

i think it's quite safe to assume someone from within the UCI made a phonecall.

It's a distinct possibility, but no, it's not safe to assume that's what happened, and at any rate it's not good to present this hypothesis as fact.