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hrotha

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I always find it funny how people think not using your real name on a message board is a sign of cowardice. No, Paul, it's just the way the internet works. It's not like anyone would recognize 99% of our names anyway, and the ones that could be recognized aren't kept secret either (leaving aside the folks who just use their real names as their screennames).

Regardless, this quote sums it up:
Is that illegal or corrupt? It is called business. Something you obviously know nothing about.
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Oldman

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hrotha said:
I always find it funny how people think not using your real name on a message board is a sign of cowardice. No, Paul, it's just the way the internet works. It's not like anyone would recognize 99% of our names anyway, and the ones that could be recognized aren't kept secret either (leaving aside the folks who just use their real names as their screennames).

Regardless, this quote sums it up:
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Moreover I've got a riding buddy that knows all of them well as a former Irish pro. He and another former teammate assure us we could be comfortable saying much of this to their face. Not that they have the guts to deal with it.
 
Granville57

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I love the ever-so-common tactic of attacking online forums for being so misguided and misinformed, as if he's so above it all. And yet there he is...in the middle of it. :rolleyes: Pat does much of the same. He derides "bloggers" all the time. And yet he either reads them himself or always seems to get the message.

Not to redo the entire thread here, but this one really does sum it all up quite nicely.
Hi Paul,

My nickname here is Junior, I've been known as that for 15/16 years, my real name is Derek Troy, I'm from Kilmacthomas Co. Waterford. I run two bike related sites, thebike.ie and flammecast.com so the old hiding behind names doesn't wash with me, what I'm called, or who I am doesn't make opinions any less valid, once they are factual and correct.

There seems to be an anti blogger attitude from the McQuaid clan en-mass, some of us do try to do our research and make decent points about the whole cycling scene. From a neutral viewpoint, the blurring of the boundaries between Cycling Goods Retailer, Race Promoter, Cycling Agent and President of UCI all in the same family can lead to people to ask questions.

Blustering your way round the point and blaming nameless people, doesn't really deflect away from the point that it looks like a cosy cartel.
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Perfect. ;)

No reply from "the clan" on that one yet.
 
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JMBeaushrimp

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Oldman said:
Moreover I've got a riding buddy that knows all of them well as a former Irish pro. He and another former teammate assure us we could be comfortable saying much of this to their face. Not that they have the guts to deal with it.
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Does that mean, if I did, they wouldn't try to punch me in the mouth? That's alright, I'm pretty sure I could take Pat anyway... Besides, I could always give him a 'donation' to ensure I kicked his ****...
 
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Was just reading and article about the corruption in the Afghan government in the Feb 14th issue of New Yorker magazine. Karzai and his brother have so many intertwining scams going on that the US Government can't keep track of it all. The few Afghan citizens that speak to the corruption are handled just like Landis; threatened with prosecution. The similarities in the article are laughably close...if it were funny.
 
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Granville57 said:
Did anyone manage to get a copy of Paul's remarks before they were edited?
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"You sad jealous twits really crack me up! Anything and McQuaid ever achieved in cycling, be it in the sporting or business end of it was achieved through hard work, a love for the sport and a certain level of intelligence. To the twit who said Darach promotes or organises the tour of California - wrong, he does neither. You sads don't even have the guts to publish your own names. You go under these ridiculous handles to remain anonymous. Get a life, and stop being so jealous."
 
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Does Pauls comments mean the mcquaids see the uci as just another business? Was/is it established/registered as such?

Wasn't the start point of lances twitter ride in Dublin's Phoenix park located very near pauls bike hire shop?

Isn't twitter like blogging another form of social media that Paul denigrates?

Are the anonymous twits part of a similar group who buy national federation licences? Am I right in saying part of a licence cost ends up funding uci and pauls brothers wages? And he calls them twits!!!???

Actually could some of these twits be some of the same people who might consider hiring a bike off Paul or buying a bike or equipment off another mcquaids or even buy a uci "approved" frame and again contribute to pats wages. Or maybe they might be just someone who stands at the side of the road and claps when a mcquaids organised race is on?????
 
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la.margna

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As mentioned before, McQuaid's brother hereby confirms that UCI is seen as "business". Wow. If that's not a written confirmation of uneven handling of diffferent riders subject to commercial aspects... (confirming indirectly Floyd's words)

That's the problem. Business today has no more ethics. Just slaves and prostitu..s to money. And they forget it's just numbers on paper. :p
 
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Basecase said:
Wasn't the start point of lances twitter ride in Dublin's Phoenix park located very near pauls bike hire shop?
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That's a bit conspiratorial, the Phoenix Park is the only place in Dublin you could have a Lance twitter ride. Anyway 99.9% of the attendees would have had bikes already and therefore no reason to rent. I wasn't there myself.
 
Dr. Maserati

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That's a bit conspiratorial, the Phoenix Park is the only place in Dublin you could have a Lance twitter ride. Anyway 99.9% of the attendees would have had bikes already and therefore no reason to rent. I wasn't there myself.
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Certainly the Phoenix Park was the ideal place to have the event but it does help if the man himself helps promote Pauls business by tweeting it.

As to the highlighted - not quite:
Paul McQuaid, owner of Phoenix Park Bike Hire, said his business was inundated with calls moments after Armstrong's online announcement.

"The phone has been ringing non-stop from 10 seconds after that tweet went up," he said.

His 190 hire bikes were booked out within two hours.
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The funds raised were sent to the Armstrongs foundation.


I don't see Paul's business as a 'conflict of interest' - however having Pats brother Darach as a race organizer and Pat's son Andrew as a riders agent after Pat becomes President certainly is and makes Pauls comments about "business" shows quite a shocking attitude.

It doesn't help matters that Darach was even selling "US Postal team issue Treks" - remember what Landis said.
 
DirtyWorks

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la.margna said:
As mentioned before, McQuaid's brother hereby confirms that UCI is seen as "business". Wow. If that's not a written confirmation of uneven handling of diffferent riders subject to commercial aspects... (confirming indirectly Floyd's words)

That's the problem. Business today has no more ethics. Just slaves and prostitu..s to money. And they forget it's just numbers on paper. :p
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You bet it's a business.

How long will it take before this sinks in? Systematized doping. Armstrong's free reign. **Wildly** different outcomes for doping positives. Controversial riders vanishing from the Pro peloton.

Why is it not obvious to everyone? That's not a rhetorical question.
 
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Paul Mcquaid, and Pat for that matter why don't you come on c.n.?

I'm sure both your views would be regarded with intrest, maybe you could explain the business model as applied to a sanctioning body ?

Also I'm sure you would welcome another body in competition to the U.C.I. as its good for business.

looking forward to reading your thoughts and replies,(I'm sure someone will ask you a question)in the very near future.
 
DirtyWorks

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ksmith said:
Paul Mcquaid, and Pat for that matter why don't you come on c.n.?

I'm sure both your views would be regarded with intrest, maybe you could explain the business model as applied to a sanctioning body ?

Also I'm sure you would welcome another body in competition to the U.C.I. as its good for business.

looking forward to reading your thoughts and replies,(I'm sure someone will ask you a question)in the very near future.
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I'd like to know how many of Pat's business interests outside the UCI 'compliment' his role at the UCI.

Maybe a better question, no McQuaid's needed. Does the Swiss regional?/federal? government make incorporation records available to the public?
 
Benotti69

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i suspect one of the McQuacks is on here under the name of Straydog. I suspect the shadydealstree one.:rolleyes:
 
BotanyBay

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hrotha said:
I always find it funny how people think not using your real name on a message board is a sign of cowardice. No, Paul, it's just the way the internet works. It's not like anyone would recognize 99% of our names anyway, and the ones that could be recognized aren't kept secret either (leaving aside the folks who just use their real names as their screennames).

Regardless, this quote sums it up:
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I remember back in the day, back when non-university people could first get internet access (1993 or so), I joined rec.bicycles.racing (using my real name).

A few years later, I go to a job interview, and one of the interviewers started asking me bike racing questions ( as if he and I had covered the fact that I was a cyclist.. we hadn't). Finally he asks me about some choice words I'd used while arguing with Tom Kunich. He'd "Alta-Vista'd" me (Google wasn't around yet). Luckily, I still got the job, but it spooked me for certain (this was 1996).

On that day, I became anonymous online. I don't need my cycling rhetoric harming my career again.
 
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