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Meanwhile in Kabaddi World Cup.

SANGRUR : Like the inaugural event, the second edition of the World Cup Kabaddi too has been marred by doping taint. Four players were found positive in the dope test that was conducted on Day One of the tournament at Faridkot. Two players from Australia, one each from Canada and Germany flunked the test and have been barred from taking part further in the event.

"Four athletes failed the dope test and the organizing committee has already served notice and temporary suspension to the athletes. They reserve the right to get the 'B' sample tested. However, they will not be allowed to play in the tournament from now onwards, till they get their names cleared," Punjab sports director Pragat Singh said on Sunday.

National Anti-Doping Agency (NADA) head Rahul Bhatnagar said that a total of 48 samples were tested and results of 18 have been received till now. Two teams of NADA are in Bathinda and Jalandhar. He said all players participating in the tournament will have to undergo the doping test.

The NADA chief said that during trials for the Indian team, 20 out of 50 players were found dope positive and therefore, the tests were being undertaken now.

Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...orld-Cup-4-fail-test/articleshow/10638124.cms
 
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Poor fellas.
I watched the second Kabaddi World Cup live.

spalco said:
I've never heard of this sport before, but it looks quite fun. No surprise there's plenty of doping though with the importance on strength and lung volume.

Yes, the single man in the opponents half has to say Kabaddi all the time while not breathing in. It's great fun to play, not fun when you're pinned down by 5 opponents though. The sport though has only India (head and shoulders above the rest), Iran and to an extent Pakistan who can compete.
 
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spalco said:
I've never heard of this sport before, but it looks quite fun. No surprise there's plenty of doping though with the importance on strength and lung volume.

Yes, the single man in the opponents half has to say Kabaddi all the time while not breathing in. It's great fun to play, not fun when you're pinned down by 5 opponents though. The sport though has only India (head and shoulders above the rest), Iran and to an extent ****stan who can compete.
 
Are other nations familiar with "Red Rover" as a US school yard game for young kids? Its very similar. Teammates link arms, and Team 1 requests a single opponent from the other team ("red rover, red rover, send __ on over...") to come charging. If that opponent runs and breaks through any of the linked arms of team 1, they take back a prisoner to join team 2.

Very interesting from a cultural diffusion standpoint...

Now lets talk about drugs
 
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5 minutes into a game on YouTube. No idea what's going on even after reading the Wikipedia article.

Hope this explains it-
1 guy is nominated from team 1 to go into team 2's half. The team 1 man has to touch a team 2 man and get back into his own half. The man (from team 2) who has been touched by the team 1 man will sit out next point onwards. Team 2's role is to stop him from crossing the halfway line.
In this case Team 2 will form a chain and try to encircle the player from team one and wrestle him to the ground. If the Team 1 man is wrestled to the ground and can't get back to his half he will sit out.
When the whole team is eliminated the other team gets a 'lona' or double point.
 
I'm not sure they are amateurs, according to this German article from last year, every player on the winning team in the World Cup gets 165K Euro; according to wiki, the winning team gets "2 crore" which according to my calculations is about 300K Euro + 15K for each individual player, which is a lot less. I don't know which is right, but either way, that's real money in India.
 
spalco said:
I'm not sure they are amateurs, according to this German article from last year, every player on the winning team in the World Cup gets 165K Euro; according to wiki, the winning team gets "2 crore" which according to my calculations is about 300K Euro + 15K for each individual player, which is a lot less. I don't know which is right, but either way, that's real money in India.

Indians weren't caught though, I think? Less amateuristic :)
 
Cloxxki said:
Indians weren't caught though, I think? Less amateuristic :)

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/now-doping-scandal-hits-kabaddi-too-107089.html

Mumbai: Ten out of 21 samples taken during a trial for the second Kabaddi World Cup, to be held next month in Punjab, have tested positive for banned steroids and a stimulant, India’s National Anti-Doping Agency (NADA) said.

The kabaddi players’ samples contained prohibited steroids stanozolol, boldenone, nandrolone and stimulant phentermine, NADA said in a statement released late on Wednesday.

Doping is a major problem in Indian sport and NADA has been forced to become more proactive as it deals with one doping scandal after another, involving mainly athletes, wrestlers and weightlifters.
 
Zam_Olyas said:
http://www.firstpost.com/sports/now-doping-scandal-hits-kabaddi-too-107089.html

Mumbai: Ten out of 21 samples taken during a trial for the second Kabaddi World Cup, to be held next month in Punjab, have tested positive for banned steroids and a stimulant, India’s National Anti-Doping Agency (NADA) said.

The kabaddi players’ samples contained prohibited steroids stanozolol, boldenone, nandrolone and stimulant phentermine, NADA said in a statement released late on Wednesday.

Doping is a major problem in Indian sport and NADA has been forced to become more proactive as it deals with one doping scandal after another, involving mainly athletes, wrestlers and weightlifters.
Like they were unaware that testing would happen!! Can't call that professional doping. Professional sports, sure. Why would anyone want to show up to a tournament positive? Least tested sport? :)
 
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Holding your breath may need some enhancement, great sport Kabaddi, Surely these guys should have been caught for recreational subsances instead of Steroids?
 
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Cloxxki said:
Like they were unaware that testing would happen!! Can't call that professional doping. Professional sports, sure. Why would anyone want to show up to a tournament positive? Least tested sport? :)

To expect kabaddi to be a professional sport would be crazy. It is an amateur sport and even the Indian players have real jobs. Heck a former Indian hockey Olympian for India now works in a Bank post retirement and hockey was huge (around the same size as cricket in the early '80s) when he played.

I also don't expect them to test positive for EPO or other 'hi-fi' drugs usage but steroids. As for the NADA, the doping agency has just really started functioning smoothly in the past couple of years and most of the testing is done for steroids, testosterone. There's not much of a history of dope testing in India or in kabaddi and that may have caught many of these sportsmen off guard.

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl2816/stories/20110812281604700.htm
This gives an idea about what sort of doping controls the NADA's doing.
 
Dope-ridden Kabaddi World Cup gasps for breath

Dope count - Australia - 3, USA - 3, Canada - 3 , UK - 3, Italy - 1, Argentina - 1, Spain - 1, Germany - 1.

CHANDIGARH: The ongoing second kabaddi 'World Cup' in Punjab is heading towards a shameful end.

With six more players, two each from UK, Norway and the US, testing positive for nandrolone and stimulants, the marquee event of the Punjab sports department is seriously in danger of fizzling out before it reaches the final stage. Out of 96 samples taken so far, 46 results are out and so far 18 have been declared positive.

Seeing the growing count, National Anti-doping Agency (NADA) has decided to increase the number of random sampling after the matches. "It is bringing a very bad name to the sport and the country as well. Seeing the increasing number of positive cases we have decided to increase the number of random sampling so that dope-tainted players are weeded out as soon as possible," said NADA director general Rahul Bhatnagar. It is not possible to test every player otherwise NADA would have gone for that, he added.

With doping count going up everyday in a mathematical progression (3,4,5,6), the futility of Punjab state government in employing state government machinery at the venues has been questioned. The event was expected to kick-start Akali Dal's campaign for the upcoming state assembly elections.

Though Punjab deputy chief minister and sports minister Sukhbir Singh Badal has been repeatedly saying that the tainted players will be shunted out, it is likely that many teams will not have the first line of players left for the final stages.

The organizing committee, the technical committee and jury of appeals are meeting at Mukatsar to find a solution to the menace. "The tournament's reputation is at stake. We are meeting tomorrow to find a solution," Punjab sports director Pargat Singh said

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...Cup-gasps-for-breath/articleshow/10673429.cms
 
Are the home countries to the sport too underdevelopped to even have access to basic dope (despite the money available from the sport), or have they already gone for a higher level of (undetectable) doping?

Seeing the picture with the article, is having a substatial fat reserve in the abdominal region advantageous in this sport? Nothing that a bit of AICAR or clenbuterol couldn't cure, but still...

What was the positive to negative ratio at this world cup thus far? Initally it was huge.
 
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It's not that difficult to get affordable medicine (which is essential) in India. This can be misused for dope.

No, definitely having a paunch is a huge handicap. This sport is about agility and speed with power. That photo is from some local tournament, shoddy journalism. They're not pros. Here's one from the Asian games

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Cloxxki said:
Are the home countries to the sport too underdevelopped to even have access to basic dope (despite the money available from the sport), or have they already gone for a higher level of (undetectable) doping?

Seeing the picture with the article, is having a substatial fat reserve in the abdominal region advantageous in this sport? Nothing that a bit of AICAR or clenbuterol couldn't cure, but still...

What was the positive to negative ratio at this world cup thus far? Initally it was huge.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/banned-drugs-freely-available-near-nis-in-patiala/1/143776.html
 
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Kabbadi is great to watch. I would be very surprised if EPO isnt being used. The ability to carry more oxygen in your blood surely would have a major impact on being able to hold your breath for long periods.
 
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