Mick Rogers

[auscyclefan94]

How will Mick go at this years Tdf? Can he win a GT in the future? What does his future behold?

 

[Cerberus]

How will Mick go at this years Tdf? Can he win a GT in the future? What does his future behold?

I'm going to go out on a limp and say:
1) He won't.
2) He can't and
3) Decent GC placements, and a few wins in second tier stage races and TT.

 

[brianf7]

Go for it Dogger

He almost pulled off a TDF win and probably would have done it if that mechanic had glued his tyres on properly .
Go Mick he is a good alrounder he can get up in sprints as well at TT and climbe.

 

[craig1985]

If he wants to win, then Columbia have to stop making him do lead out for Cav.

 

[Andrichuk]

He may break top 10 if he has a fantastic tour.

 

[Sasquatch]

If he wants to win, then Columbia have to stop making him do lead out for Cav.

According to this article, if he does well in Switzerland and California, they will take him out of the lead-out train.

Further to that, Stapleton said that Rogers would get support if he's in form come July as it goes on Merit. Whether or not that is just some spin, who knows. But if he is in form, they need to set half the team around him and leave Cav with about 3 or 4 guys.

 

[Mellow Velo]

How will Mick go at this years Tdf? Can he win a GT in the future? What does his future behold?

Mick Rogers: Australia's answer to Tom Danielson.

 

[BroDeal]

Mick Rogers: Australia's answer to Tom Danielson.

ROTFL. Brilliant.

 

[craig1985]

According to this article, if he does well in Switzerland and California, they will take him out of the lead-out train.

Further to that, Stapleton said that Rogers would get support if he's in form come July as it goes on Merit. Whether or not that is just some spin, who knows. But if he is in form, they need to set half the team around him and leave Cav with about 3 or 4 guys.

TBH I wouldn't make Tony Martin do lead out either. Let him get through the flat stages, and let him do his thing in the mountains.

 

[taiwan]

TBH I wouldn't make Tony Martin do lead out either. Let him get through the flat stages, and let him do his thing in the mountains.

If Michael Rogers is showing good form, then Tony Martin's got no chance of escaping train duties. Doesn't seem like the best team to be on if you're that type of rider, they keep you on a short leash. The formula works, though. I wonder how Lofkvist will on a different team (actually Lofkvist might be competing with Gerrans for leadership in shorter stage races).

 

[elapid]

Mick Rogers: Australia's answer to Tom Danielson.

I was just thinking that, but then realized Mick Rogers has done a damn site more than TD. At least he has lived up to some of his promise as triple WC, stage winner and stage race winner. TD, well ... so much promise and never delivered.

 

[Moondance]

Mick Rogers: Australia's answer to Tom Danielson.

V. nice. Also true.

He'll be fine a decent result here or there, maybe even a top five in a course like Romandie, which always is heavy on the TTing. But let's not confuse the Ruta del Sol with an actual barometer for GT sucess. Last year Joost Posthuma won this race, and he's basically a good domestique with an above average time trial.

 

[theyoungest]

Mick Rogers: Australia's answer to Tom Danielson.

Absolute BS. He's a triple world champion TT, for crying out loud.

 

[Ripper]

Mick Rogers: Australia's answer to Tom Danielson.

Ouch ......

 

[Mellow Velo]

Absolute BS. He's a triple world champion TT, for crying out loud.

Who did he beat to win those?
I thought this thread was about his GT potential.
Although I quite clearly posted Tom Danielson as a bit of a leg pull, if you check out their road palmares, they are very similar.

Tom Danielson
http://www.cyclingarchives.com/coureuruitslagenfiche.php?coureurid=2587
TD manages a 6th and 7th place in Grand Tour GCs. 25 wins.

Mick Rogers
http://www.cyclingarchives.com/coureuruitslagenfiche.php?coureurid=4595
MR manages 8th and 10th place in Grand Tour GCs. 23 wins.

Both have experienced lengthy spells of low achievement during their respective careers.

Anyhow, will Columbia let him off Tour train duty?
Depends whether he's running 8th, or 103rd.

 

[blackcat]

his tenth place came in the Operation Puerto Tour in 2006. He was what, only 26 then, I think he had stopped working with Ferrari, cos Aldag and Stapleton told him not to, but T-Mobile went to Freiburg for their transfusions after the prologue. Nice! A good little top up.

Rogers has never really been able to cross over, to a GT rider who can timetrial, versus a one-day tter like at Worlds. He could not handle time in the mtns and weight and power loss, with throwing down a good chrono. Ofcourse, a chrono in a GT is all about recovery, which is all about the medical program. Rogers was a darn site more talented than Wigans, and I have Wigans for the podium this year. StrongArm has said Rogers could win the Tour. Obviously Ferrari had told him his SRM numbers. Rogers just needed an Armstrong like medical program.

At the moment, no one can beat Contador in the next few years, if you pull out an ergo and do it in a lab. He wins on the chrono, and on the queen stage. No rival. But give Rogers the program Wigans had in 2009, he could be up there and a threat for the podium. 2006 he did well in the mtns, and helping Kloden. Think he will be top 20 this year, but they have got their eggs with Tony Martin at Columbia. I think Martin is with Kloden's trainer. I think.

I do think Columbia need atleast one of Rogers and Martin pulling for Cav. Hincapie is a big loss in the train.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Rogers is ok.
He will never win a GT, no wayy!!
I agree with the TD comparison in terms of achievement. However I think he is a great team worker for highroad.

 

[Anonymous]

Mick Rogers: Australia's answer to Tom Danielson.

Best line I have read in months! Bravo!

 

[Ferminal]

Mick Rogers: Australia's answer to Tom Danielson.

Oooh... Snap!

He will probably be top5 at ToC, and 10th-15th at the TdF.

On another note, "that day" in 2007 still baffles me. Why were Rasmussen and Rogers allowed to get off the front? They may not have been the biggest threats to the GC Contenders, but they were certainly in with a chance. Did the peloton have that much faith in Rasmussen's (lack of) TT ability? Or were there just no teams willing to stop them - considering that T-Mobile held yellow.

Really was an interesting day which included AC opening up his legs but falling off the wheelsuck group after a flat, and Vino getting dragged along by Kloden.

 

[Ibanez]

He almost pulled off a TDF win and probably would have done it if that mechanic had glued his tyres on properly

When Rogers crashed, Arroyo, Colom, Kohl and Goubert were still in the group with Rasmussen. He was in virtual yellow in the first real mountain stage. Nothing more, nothing less.

Still makes me laugh when people claim he would have been in with a shout for the overall win had he not crashed out. That said, he's done a helluva lot more then Danielson ever will. Tommy D to get his tour start this year? No chance

 

[auscyclefan94]

Go for it Dogger

He almost pulled off a TDF win and probably would have done it if that mechanic had glued his tyres on properly .
Go Mick he is a good alrounder he can get up in sprints as well at TT and climbe.

I personally hate when people say Rogers would of been in yellow if he didn't crash. Rassmussen was flying. Dodger had to stay within 39 seconds to get yellow.

He may break top 10 if he has a fantastic tour.

In the giro he was lucky to top 10 as he only got 8th due to the TTT. After the first mountain stage, he went backwards.

 

[ingsve]

I wonder how Lofkvist will on a different team (actually Lofkvist might be competing with Gerrans for leadership in shorter stage races).

Regardless of how Löfkvist rides I have a hard time seeing Gerrans being a leader in stage races. He's never shown any tendencies of being interested in GCs. He's more of a one day specialist that also goes for though stages in stage races.

For stage race GCs I think it's more likely that we'll see guys like Stannard, Pauwels, Cioni and possibly even Kennaugh etc if Wiggins, Löfkvist, EBH isn't there.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Regardless of how Löfkvist rides I have a hard time seeing Gerrans being a leader in stage races. He's never shown any tendencies of being interested in GCs. He's more of a one day specialist that also goes for though stages in stage races.

For stage race GCs I think it's more likely that we'll see guys like Stannard, Pauwels, Cioni and possibly even Kennaugh etc if Wiggins, Löfkvist, EBH isn't there.

Gerrans has said that he will do Paris nice going for a high gc placing.

 

[blackcat]

Regardless of how Löfkvist rides I have a hard time seeing Gerrans being a leader in stage races. He's never shown any tendencies of being interested in GCs. He's more of a one day specialist that also goes for though stages in stage races.

For stage race GCs I think it's more likely that we'll see guys like Stannard, Pauwels, Cioni and possibly even Kennaugh etc if Wiggins, Löfkvist, EBH isn't there.

Stannard wont be in any GC hunt, outside of De Panne. Well, unless he undergoes a PFC change like Jens, and dishes up wins in races like Criterium International. But no evidence Stannard can climb a lick at this point.

 

[Anonymous]

Regardless of how Löfkvist rides I have a hard time seeing Gerrans being a leader in stage races. He's never shown any tendencies of being interested in GCs. He's more of a one day specialist that also goes for though stages in stage races.

For stage race GCs I think it's more likely that we'll see guys like Stannard, Pauwels, Cioni and possibly even Kennaugh etc if Wiggins, Löfkvist, EBH isn't there.

Every rider has been promised one team leadership role.