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problem is promising too much. I bet about 15 riders think they are on the July team.dimspace said:Every rider has been promised one team leadership role.
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problem is promising too much. I bet about 15 riders think they are on the July team.dimspace said:Every rider has been promised one team leadership role.
ingsve said:Regardless of how Löfkvist rides I have a hard time seeing Gerrans being a leader in stage races. He's never shown any tendencies of being interested in GCs. He's more of a one day specialist that also goes for though stages in stage races.
For stage race GCs I think it's more likely that we'll see guys like Stannard, Pauwels, Cioni and possibly even Kennaugh etc if Wiggins, Löfkvist, EBH isn't there.
elapid said:OK, I am not sure whether I am being gullible and taking the bait hook, line and sinker, or whether you guys are truly deluded in comparing TD to MR.
Tom Danielson's palmares:
- 1st Tour of Qinghai Lake (2002 and 2003)
- 1st Tour de Langkawi (2003)
- 1st Tour of Georgia (2005)
- 1st Tour of Austria (2006)
- Stage win, Vuelta a Espana (2006)
- 6th Vuelta a Espana (2006) and 7th Vuelta a Espana (2005)
- 9th Tour of California (2009)
Michael Rogers's palmares:
- 1st Tour Down Under (2002)
- 1st Deutschland Tour (2003)
- 1st Route de Sud (2003)
- 1st Tour de Belgium (2003)
- 1st Vuelta a Andalucia (2010)
- 2nd Tour de Suisse (2005)
- 3rd Tour of California (2009)
- 6th Tour Down Under (2009)
- 7th Tour of California (2007)
- 7th Giro d'Italia (2009)
- 9th Tour de France (2006)
As well as a number of podium finishes in smaller stage races (such as Volta a Catalunya, Tour of Missouri, Sachsen Tour, and Eneco tour of Benelux), Junior (1996) and Senior (2009) National Time Trial Champion; World U-19 Team Pursuit and Points Race Champion (1997), Commonwealth Games Scratch Race Champion (1998), and triple Time Trial World Champion (2003-2005).
While Rogers is very unlikely to win a GT, he has much more fulfilled talent than Danielson has ever shown.
dimspace said:Every rider has been promised one team leadership role.
craig1985 said:Ok, this is probably for the Clinic, for a triple World TT Champ, Rogers' results in TT's in the major Tours or even major stage races leave a lot to be desired. I would of expected him to have had a lot more TT success.
Weird.
auscyclefan94 said:not everyone can be a leader. though i think they will share it around as much as possible
mherm79 said:Not really, Rogers has put a lot of work into his climbing to meet his GC aspirations. As a result he has lost weight & power. Evan's has similarly dropped off in TT in my opinion since 2007 when he had no answers for Contador and Rasmusson on the climbs.
auscyclefan94 said:It might be a bit of that but 09 and this years tours and in general in grand tours, time trial km's have dropped off. Not worth being awesome in the tt's if their are hardly any tt kms.
craig1985 said:Ok, this is probably for the Clinic, for a triple World TT Champ, Rogers' results in TT's in the major Tours or even major stage races leave a lot to be desired. I would of expected him to have had a lot more TT success.
Weird.
auscyclefan94 said:How will Mick go at this years Tdf? Can he win a GT in the future? What does his future behold?
brianf7 said:Go for it Dogger
He almost pulled off a TDF win and probably would have done it if that mechanic had glued his tyres on properly .
Go Mick he is a good alrounder he can get up in sprints as well at TT and climbe.
Mellow Velo said:Mick Rogers: Australia's answer to Tom Danielson.![]()
Sasquatch said:Rogers was touching the time trial bike a lot during the years he was dominate.
BroDeal said:Dominant? When was that?? He won WCs because others were caught and the worlds was seriously devalued after it was moved to a location on the calendar when all the GC guys have hung it up for the season. He has never been able to live up to his rep as a time trialist during a GT.
42x16ss said:Valid point, but don't forget that Rogers was only 23 when he won his first TT WC and in 04 and 05 he still had to beat riders such as Vino, Cancellara, Julich, Kashechkin and Sebastian Lang - all pretty handy in TT's no?
The guy had hardly raced for nearly two years when he started last years Giro and still came 7th riding in Cav's train before he pulled out. Not too shabby.
Having said that, I kinda want to make a few comments about the Ferrari he had before he moved to T-Mobile but this thread isn't in the clinic.
auscyclefan94 said:Cancellara and kasheckin was young at that time, julich was past his best and really Vino wasn't a great 1 day time trialist.
BroDeal said:Dominant? When was that?? He won WCs because others were caught and the worlds was seriously devalued after it was moved to a location on the calendar when all the GC guys have hung it up for the season. He has never been able to live up to his rep as a time trialist during a GT.
What is it with these Aussie GC hopefuls? Is there a playbook that says they should find a team with a top sprinter on it? Rogers should be begging Vaughters for a spot on Garmin. It is English speaking and has goals that match the goals he should have. You never know. He could be gluten intolerant.
Mancebo, Vino, Contador...blackcat said:How many riders did the Operation Puerto pull from 2006? Basso, and Ullrich? Anyone who would have finished about Rogers?