1. MVP also had teammates. So no.
There is a difference between underperforming and underperforming significantly. I don't disagree when you say MVP is a monster, he is for sure. But let's not pretend (and this is exactly my point) MVP (even in peak shape) is a monster as good as Pogacar. He isn't, I'm sorry.
Not normal in saying Pogacar wins most of his races by sheer luck.
He didnt underperform significantly.
Well it depends on the race, surely? I'd always put money on MdvP over Pogacar in certain races. MSR (normally), Roubaix, most of the cobble classics to be honest. I feel like that doesn't take away from Pogacar, it's good that we have the two riding at the same time and competitive in some of the same races.
Your way of assessing wounds seems strange to me. But okay. i'll agree with hashrouge we should not make too much of MVDP injury either. Lets say i don't believe Pogacar was hindered one tiny bit from falling injury wise during the actual race, and i believe MVDP suffered some minor inconveniences.
It’s hard to say for sure. The crash might have impacted MVDP more, or it could be that Pogi is just more robust—his body handles pain and recovery better than others in the same boat. I’m not sure if people here are actually debating or just baiting each other.
I acknowledged his capabilities too…
Do you know Cipressa has an average of 2% in the last 2 kms, right? Right?
Pogacar and van der Poel do often see to have a greater share of luck when it counts, to be fair. Maybe not yesterday for van der Poel I guess, but that's quite rare for him. Whereas someone like Wout does always seem to get dealt a worse hand. The main luck for Pogacar yesterday I think was that his bike was okay, because otherwise he would have had no chance.
No, the difference is when Remco does that, he is normally racing 1 km behind Pogacar.
Sure, but different mannerisms and circumstances.
Van Poppel pulled because there was Pellizzari in Pogacar group and that group barely got car draft only after they were in the cars immediately after the peloton, that's common practice and it would be idiotic by officials to not allow it this time
Sure. that was not was i was debating but i fully agree with your statement. I was simply pointing out that whilst he was futher off the peloton than MVDP, Pogacar also for whatever circumstances received more help overall.
MVP did the same thing last year and he won the race. Why wouldn't he do the same again? Give me a good rational reason. The true reason is you don't like Pogacar so you wanted anyone to win but him.
Cause he himself admitted to be feeling it after the cipressa. If you know you won't be able to follow on the Poggio like last season, you don't ride like last season in favour of someone stronger than you. last year MVDP could attack on the Poggio now he was gapped. that are 2 very different outcomes and a different outcome he hinted at he knew would come after the cipressa in his interview.
you honestly believe he would have sit up and not ridden had MVDP and Pidcock chosen to work less. Allowed a chasing peloton to come back and nullify all the effort on the climbs?
Because clearly he had worse legs than last year.
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