Mo Thread

[Poursuivant]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33096367

so..looks like some journos have a bit of self respect...look for the inconsistencies and engage brain....hopefully Froome next

Was going to post this article, it's great journalism, but kindly bore off with the sky talk.

 

[King Boonen]

Last night as I was driving back from mountain biking I had the radio on and had to listen to a load of crap about how Mo needs to talk to his coach and find out what's going on, he's as shocked as we are and needs time to assess. They then went on to attack Justin Gatlin for about ten minutes and claim Bolt beating him would be a redemption for world athletics...

Yet it seems he knew about this program four weeks prior to it being aired according to The Guardian and he knew about investigative journalism going on in 2013 (nice catch The_Carrot).

I really do despair at sports journalism in this country but the commentators are much, much worse.

 

[nayr497]

So was Salazar a doper when he ran? I had never heard of him until the New Yorker had a story on him a few years back. No mention was made of PEDs.

 

[ray j willings]

Salazar now denying he doped Slaney

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33096367

 

[The Hitch]

The funny thing is its only 2 and a half years ago that these journos were all so "shocked" at the revelations from the Armstrong case that doping was "widespread" in sport. They claimed to read Hamilton's book which talked about how Fuentes doped other athletes.

Yet with athletics theyve all reverted back to the traditional paradigm of bad apples. And even Salazar gets benefit of the doubt from some.

 

[ray j willings]

Re:

The funny thing is its only 2 and a half years ago that these journos were all so "shocked" at the revelations from the Armstrong case that doping was "widespread" in sport. They claimed to read Hamilton's book which talked about how Fuentes doped other athletes.

Yet with athletics theyve all reverted back to the traditional paradigm of bad apples. And even Salazar gets benefit of the doubt from some.

In one report last week a reporter said that he did not want athletics to get the same rep as cycling.
In reality every time someone gets caught Joe Public just shrug their shoulders and say they are all at.
Most " normal" people are just not that bothered or surprised.
Its how much effort the media want to put in to make the athlete look bad.
You ask any football fan if they knew Zidane doped , most would have no idea and none of them would care if he did.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Re:

So was Salazar a doper when he ran? I had never heard of him until the New Yorker had a story on him a few years back. No mention was made of PEDs.

He has talked about using prednizone during his build up for Comrades Marathon. I do not have a link handy, but the fact is very google-able.

 

[oldcrank]

Mo has done some fine doubles in his time,
but Canadian Andre De Grasse apparently
has done the fastest ever one day 100/200
double with 9.75w and 19.58w at the NCAA's.
Well done, lad !!

 

[SeriousSam]

This isn't really the right thread, but it was heavily wind assisted. Otherwise, we'd know for sure the kid's doping. But with the wind it's just overwhelmingly likely.

 

[The Hitch]

Re:

This isn't really the right thread, but it was heavily wind assisted. Otherwise, we'd know for sure the kid's doping. But with the wind it's just overwhelmingly likely.

I hope a certain Robbie doesn't find this thread

 

[buckle]

Re:

Lets say by some chance that Mo gets caught.... then what?


We will get a bunch of well known athletes, commentators etc saying how shocked they are. Nothing is really going to be done because no one with any power or influence can do anything except keep pretending that most athletes are clean and pretend they are shocked again when the next big name gets busted. its a never ending circle of fallen hero's and money making.

You can't stop it ...

Very true. You comment is reminiscent of Ray Liotta's reaction to the assassination of Joe Pesci in "Goodfellas". In speaking of himself and Robert De Niro, Pesci's two surviving friends, he states: "There was nothing we could do about it, we just had to sit there and take it".

 

[Benotti69]

Journalist David Epstein has said 17 more people have come forward to him about Oregon Nike doping.

 

[Poursuivant]

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Journalist David Epstein has said 17 more people have come forward to him about Oregon Nike doping.

But, but, but Mo has seen no proof

 

[Poursuivant]

I find Salazar's denial of coaching Slaney absolutely bizarre. How did he expect the media not to find out when he has done loads of interviews with her?

 

[King Boonen]

Re:

The funny thing is its only 2 and a half years ago that these journos were all so "shocked" at the revelations from the Armstrong case that doping was "widespread" in sport. They claimed to read Hamilton's book which talked about how Fuentes doped other athletes.

Yet with athletics theyve all reverted back to the traditional paradigm of bad apples. And even Salazar gets benefit of the doubt from some.

Yep, unless it's cycling. I'm not one for pointing out problems in other sports, I'd prefer cycling looks to itself and see that testing needs improving, rather than how it stacks up against other sports.

But when clueless pro/ex-pro athletes and commentators simultaneously mock cycling and claim athletics is happy to catch its cheats I get really annoyed.

Cycling has the best testing of all sports. Most other sports are a laughing stock compared to cycling.

 

[SeriousSam]

What really annoys me is when people start saying doping in their favourite sport (usually football) is not an issue because it's not an endurance or strength sport but about skill.

 

[King Boonen]

Heads in the sand fella. Didn't Arsene Wenger complain about players getting tested twice a season or something ridiculous?

 

[JimmyFingers]

Re:

Heads in the sand fella. Didn't Arsene Wenger complain about players getting tested twice a season or something ridiculous?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/9858938/Arsene-Wenger-our-game-is-full-of-drug-fuelled-legends-and-needs-to-be-cleaned-up.html

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

Heads in the sand fella. Didn't Arsene Wenger complain about players getting tested twice a season or something ridiculous?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/9858938/Arsene-Wenger-our-game-is-full-of-drug-fuelled-legends-and-needs-to-be-cleaned-up.html

interesting link, but what a weird interview. First part contains some very intelligent, realistic remarks from Wenger about doping, for instance about Fuentes working with the Spanish soccer team, about the unreal zero positives at the recent WC in South Africa, and gems like

We are at the level where people are ready to do anything to win

Then suddenly this:

“It’s not a perfect world but I don’t think cheating or match-fixing is a problem,” he said. “I personally feel English football is clean of cheating 100%.

wtf?

 

[Benotti69]

BBC smell blood on Mo Farah. Why dont they investigate Paula Radcliffe............................

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/33125707

 

[keeponrollin]

As Ali G said, "Is it cause I is Black ?"

 

[ebandit]

brit

BBC smell blood on Mo Farah. Why dont they investigate Paula Radcliffe............................

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/33125707

ffs if one more person says.............'brits don't dope'.................i will be telling them

to check with paula

Mark L

 

[Pies&Booze]

Re:

BBC smell blood on Mo Farah. Why dont they investigate Paula Radcliffe............................

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/33125707

But why do they still keep repeating the spineless mantra "There is no suggestion that Farah has been involved in doping."??? When surely this is exactly what is being suggested. I think what they actually mean is that there is no (or Mo) evidence of Mo doping or that they haven't got their ducks in a row yet.

I reckon Sally is going for the "shoot the messenger " defence. Should be fun anyways.

 

[ray j willings]

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BBC smell blood on Mo Farah. Why dont they investigate Paula Radcliffe............................

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/33125707

Why don't they investigate Mo Farah.

 

[The Hitch]

Re:

BBC smell blood on Mo Farah. Why dont they investigate Paula Radcliffe............................

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/33125707

blood on Farah? The article mentions him once - as a training partner of Rupp, and clearly suggests Rupp was doing his own thing.