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red_flanders said:
I'll be honest, in my time behind the scenes, I would say that 90% of what the members think is some kind of plot or conspiracy on the part of the staff or mods is completely off-base.

It's the wall of silence and the deletion of inquiring threads, and the banning of a previous mod over this, that I find to be hysterical.
 

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BroDeal said:
I did manage to make a bit of room.

Hold on - if you make a claim publicly then say it publicly.

Quite frankly, that is all kinds of wrong - you have gone exceedingly personal and now are getting people to PM you to smear them?

At one point I did consider your & RRs problem a slight miscommunication - now it has become obsessive and is basically bullying.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
Hold on - if you make a claim publicly then say it publicly.

Quite frankly, that is all kinds of wrong - you have gone exceedingly personal and now are getting people to PM you to smear them?

At one point I did consider your & RRs problem a slight miscommunication - now it has become obsessive and is basically bullying.

Only you could come up with this from the last few posts. You need to report to the nattering niggling nitpicker thread you started and vortex yourself.
 

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BroDeal said:
Only you could come up with this from the last few posts. You need to report to the nattering niggling nitpicker thread you started and vortex yourself.

You brought it up here - that was your choice.

This is just a yes or no, do you have new, pertinent info?
If you have then you share it, here would be best.
 
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If you are making a claim to have some info about the Papp shiiit that has been cranking /affectin us all it would be nice if we could all hear what this hidden new info is.

that seems a reasonable request.
 
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Granville57 said:
It's the wall of silence and the deletion of inquiring threads, and the banning of a previous mod over this, that I find to be hysterical.

I guess that was before my time as a mod. Don't know what you're referring to.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
I was always in the 10% - to me it seemed a classic "he said, she said", I know who to believe but, CN were not in position to do much, and perhaps someone even made it 'legal' (If it wasn't going to be buried, that will bury it)

But now a new twist - if Bro is insinuating something, he should put up or shut up.

My comments were more general, not about any specific situation.
 
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sittingbison said:
It wasn't just me and the sceptic who felt it. And yes, it is a sockpuppet account.



problem is Tom375 that trolling like this takes advantage of people like red_flanders and liberty seguros good natures, inciting them to give full and accurate answers to disingenuous questions. Also winds up the usual suspects, so the thread becomes circular.

Thanks for the reply SB, who was Graham_s a sockpuppet account of ?

Wrt to you and sceptic feeling it... I also had the feeling that he was going to get banned straight away - just not sure that's right... It didn't seem such a sophisticated "sock puppet" attack! It felt a lot more like a naive cycling fan walking into a ****storm to me! -
Don't get me wrong he definitely had the potential to clog up thread (no more than usual) , and I'm mot in favour of that... He didn't have the answers to anything asked.. However not sure so called "believers" ever do. Thay don't come into the clinic already armed - unlike Joachim who did! Personally don't see any likeness between the two apart from they were on the "sky frat side".
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Anyway would be good to know who he is a sock puppet of so that we can recognise parts of the posting style , thanks

Just felt at the time the thread had
 
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Granville57 said:
It's the wall of silence and the deletion of inquiring threads, and the banning of a previous mod over this, that I find to be hysterical.

Barrus was banned over his behaviour...
 
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red_flanders said:
I guess that was before my time as a mod. Don't know what you're referring to.
I thought you and I had a PM conversation about the topic quite some time ago. :confused:

Anyway, much more recently, I offered some pertinent links here:
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=1387081#post1387081


Ferminal said:
Barrus was banned over his behaviour...
True. Ultimately he was perma-banned for returning as a sock puppet while temporarily banned (which he knew was bound to happen) as I recall.

But his agenda before, and after his ban, was to push—with a fair degree of force—Papp Gate. The way he "behaved" to those ends is what led to his removal, but nevertheless his agenda remained the same. At least that's how I remember it from my humble perspective. Having been a mod yourself, you may very well be in a position to correct me on any of that if necessary.
 
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Granville57 said:
But his agenda before, and after his ban, was to push—with a fair degree of force—Papp Gate. The way he "behaved" to those ends is what led to his removal, but nevertheless his agenda remained the same. At least that's how I remember it from my humble perspective.

Yes that is all correct and I admire his stance. But even taking into account the aggravating circumstances it would have been hard to let it all slide. It's kinda straightforward if you persist when being directly asked to cease.
 
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Ferminal said:
Yes that is all correct and I admire his stance. But even taking into account the aggravating circumstances it would have been hard to let it all slide. It's kinda straightforward if you persist when being directly asked to cease.

There is see I fly something "thick" going on at the momenent ! Juicy -I doubt it - but could be ! Probably just a spat between the " members" !
Yawn ..,,,,
 
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Granville57 said:
I thought you and I had a PM conversation about the topic quite some time ago. :confused:

Maybe, but I don't recall it. What mod was banned? Just not sure what you're referring to.

We don't get extra email space as mods. Try doing that job with 50 as a max.
 
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Tom375 said:
Funnyman! How much did you sell it for ? Or we're you too stoned man.... Just a few tokes!

You got to remember this was 45 years ago! I think I spent something like $16 for it - which was pretty pricey at that mom - it was selling out in LA for like 5??? Idk. I probably sold it for about the same price. Even today, if it were still in pristine condition - it would only go for 50-100. Not much better than inflation.
 
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red_flanders said:
Oh, I thought he quit. That's what confused me.

If I'm not mistaken - he did quit. And got banned after he quit. For being militantly anti-Papp and anti-CN-stance-on-Papp. He became disruptive.
 
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hiero2 said:
If I'm not mistaken - he did quit. And got banned after he quit. For being militantly anti-Papp and anti-CN-stance-on-Papp. He became disruptive.

Yeah, I recall now. I thought they meant he was banned as a mod, not a poster. I couldn't recall any mod being banned.
 
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BroDeal said:
In the past I have given Daniel Benson a hard time about stonewalling about the Papp situation. Now that I know the real story, what I wrote was not warranted.

Hmm. Interesting. Ok - so tell us please, how did you learn the "real story"?

Mind telling the rest of us what the "real story" is?

Thank you ever so much. In advance. Of course.
 
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