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[Dazed and Confused]

For some reason that doesn't surprise me that you think that way on this subject.

Well we wouldn't want to upset or surprise you would we?

 

[MarkvW]

ChrisE has been directed by the mods to desist from a certain manner of posting regarding Race Radio. After the warning, and after some corrective actions by the mods, we get this from Race Radio:

no, Chris was attempting to twist what I wrote to fit some supposed agenda.....again.

Instead of polluting this thread with more of this perhaps you could take it somewhere else?

This is a classic "baiting" style of post, with multiple accusations that are designed to aggravate the subject: (a) "twist"; (b) "agenda"; and (c) "polluting."

This is a screaming invitation for ChrisE to respond in kind (in direct violation of the mod's directive). If he does, he will surely get banned.

If the mods wonder why some people think Race Radio gets special treatment, maybe this post will help the (non-partisan) mods understand.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

ChrisE has been directed by the mods to desist from a certain manner of posting regarding Race Radio. After the warning, and after some corrective actions by the mods, we get this from Race Radio:



This is a classic "baiting" style of post, with multiple accusations that are designed to aggravate the subject: (a) "twist"; (b) "agenda"; and (c) "polluting."

This is a screaming invitation for ChrisE to respond in kind (in direct violation of the mod's directive). If he does, he will surely get banned.

If the mods wonder why some people think Race Radio gets special treatment, maybe this post will help the (non-partisan) mods understand.

See Mark - they are not accusations, RR is pointing out exactly what happened, instead of discussing things about LA, posters have come in to make remarks about RR - including twisting what they said.

So, it is right that Chris (and anyone else) is directed to stop by the mods.

 

[The New Clinic 12]

If someone is going to pretend they have special inside knowledge, even though they can never cite anything they have inside knowledge about, then it does make them a target, yes. RaceRadio is not an axe murderer, but people instinctually dislike a phoney, and RaceRadio has made quite a reputation out of being a phoney, just like Aaron Brown did with his twitter account. The fact that only 12 people in the clinic know about RaceRadio being a phoney doesn't change the reality he is a phoney. He's also a troll. As per usual, he used the latest information to attack people (before back tracking after remembering being called out by BroDeal on the last occasion he spun an article). Also did you see how he said "hendershot....finally", as if a life time of frustration had been let out. That sounded like the words of a stalker who has been obsessing over every aspect of Armstrong's personal business for years. He probably has an old grey picture of Hendershot on his wall with information about his life and where he lives, as he does with all the characters linked to LA. Rings true, doesn't it? Again, that type of person is quite unappealing and will attract criticism.

What is now getting very tedious is every time people challenge him on his trolling - something which their was forum omerta against for years and he could close down by lying they were paid - you get same bunch of groupies who say "why are you challenging him all the time?" It didn't work for Armstrong and it won't work for Mr RR. The superbowl is coming.

 

[Race Radio]

ChrisE has been directed by the mods to desist from a certain manner of posting regarding Race Radio. After the warning, and after some corrective actions by the mods, we get this from Race Radio:

Nice attempt to twist it Mark

You know I was responding to this

It seems this only applies to RR, while someone like Dr. Mas can query and pick apart every statement.

There had already been multiple warnings by Mod to get the thread back on topic. I was asking that Red follow that request. If He/She wanted to continue with the topic of me, or other, posters could He/She take it to another thread and not continue to derail the Armstrong one.

pretty obvious.

 

[the sceptic]

See Mark - they are not accusations, RR is pointing out exactly what happened, instead of discussing things about LA, posters have come in to make remarks about RR - including twisting what they said.

So, it is right that Chris (and anyone else) is directed to stop by the mods.

If someone posts something on a forum, cant we query them on it?

 

[The New Clinic 12]

The comeback

Maybe if you had retired after Armstrong lost the titles it would have been ok. But you had to comeback and look for more....it's made you a huge target. That's been your down fall.

 

[MarkvW]

If someone posts something on a forum, cant we query them on it?

I guarantee you. I utterly guarantee you, that the intent of that post is lost on its intended recipient.

 

[ChrisE]

I guarantee you. I utterly guarantee you, that the intent of that post is lost on its intended recipient.

And that is where you are wrong. He knows exactly what the intent is. It's all a game.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

If someone posts something on a forum, cant we query them on it?

Yes, absolutely.

I guarantee you. I utterly guarantee you, that the intent of that post is lost on its intended recipient.

I doubt it Mark.
Its very simple - if you post something then someone can (and indeed should) query it, which obviously requires querying the poster.
But there is a distinction between querying someone on what they post, and querying the posters motives.

 

[the sceptic]

Yes, absolutely.


I doubt it Mark.
Its very simple - if you post something then someone can (and indeed should) query it, which obviously requires querying the poster.
But there is a distinction between querying someone on what they post, and querying the posters motives.

So it is only you and Race Radio that can query people on their motives?

 

[andy1234]

Yup, pretty obvious some here have some strange obsession with me. Instead of addressing the specific points or the topic they insist on targeting me and babble about bias and agenda. It is easier to target me then address the content of my posts.

<quotes snipped>

This is just a small sample from one thread.

I pointed out that you flip flopped on the 93 worlds talking point.
One minute you were puffing your chest out with this new information, next minute it was er umm er, maybe he didn't use EPO in 93.

If you can't be consistent on the content of your posts from one page to the next, then which version am I supposed to address? it seems only fair is to comment on your inconsistency, and it's causes.

PS you brought me back into this, so don't whine about being targeted.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

So it is only you and Race Radio that can query people on their motives?

No - sadly not.

Thats a mod issue - one I have pointed out many times, its up to them.
I have identified the problems and even offered solutions, none have been accepted - which is their decision.

So you can question my motives, sure. And if you get it wrong, you will be corrected.

 

[Race Radio]

I pointed out that you flip flopped on the 93 worlds talking point.
One minute you were puffing your chest out with this new information, next minute it was er umm er, maybe he didn't use EPO in 93.

If you can't be consistent on the content of your posts from one page to the next, then which version am I supposed to address? it seems only fair is to comment on your inconsistency, and it's causes.

PS you brought me back into this, so don't whine about being targeted.

Given your posting history I would expect you to understand "post not poster"

You would have had a point if you had challenged me on facts or questioned my position.......but uou didn't. Instead you, and others, ignored what I wrote and babbled about bias, imaginary agenda's , and conspiracies.

It is pretty simple

 

[Race Radio]

So it is only you and Race Radio that can query people on their motives?

Ok, we get it, you want someone to "Query you on your motives" I'll bite.....Do you really believe this or are these claims of false persecution tossed out just for entertainment?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

This is a copy of a post from the LA thread.

Can't we all agree to not respond to him and wait for the mods to arrive?

A point here - no, I do not agree to that.
I am going to respond to the poster and correct them, because the mods only ban the poster, yet leave their posts.
By doing so, in effect they are allowing the person to post, albeit under new usernames.

 

[Granville57]

This is a copy of a post from the LA thread.

A point here - no, I do not agree to that.
I am going to respond to the poster and correct them, because the mods only ban the poster, yet leave their posts.
By doing so, in effect they are allowing the person to post, albeit under new usernames.

From my own humble observations, it appeared that the good doctor tried multiple times to post the above item, both here and in the Armstrong thread.

It kept getting nuked, he kept reposting, and now he is banned.

Can the mods offer some insight into this decision?

 

[Race Radio]

From my own humble observations, it appeared that the good doctor tried multiple times to post the above item, both here and in the Armstrong thread.

It kept getting nuked, he kept reposting, and now he is banned.

Can the mods offer some insight into this decision?

Wait, I thought Dr. Mas was protected? Can't be questioned......mmmm

 

[aphronesis]

From my own humble observations, it appeared that the good doctor tried multiple times to post the above item, both here and in the Armstrong thread.

It kept getting nuked, he kept reposting, and now he is banned.

Can the mods offer some insight into this decision?

Are you being disingenuous or does this truly elude you? Mas may state whatever he likes, but he doesn't make the rules. Not the first time this has been demonstrated. Try not to take it so hard.

 

[the sceptic]

From my own humble observations, it appeared that the good doctor tried multiple times to post the above item, both here and in the Armstrong thread.

It kept getting nuked, he kept reposting, and now he is banned.

Can the mods offer some insight into this decision?

Yes I saw that. Probably not a good idea to keep posting it when it was getting nuked.

That said, Free Dr Mas.

 

[The Hitch]

I wouldn't call you and the Hog group as a 'powers that be', but you certainly have an obsession with him.

Out of interest, and for fun, (though I know you are banned atm so maybe someone else can have a go) who would be in "the hog group" and then which apostles form " the clinic 12"?

 

[ChrisE]

Are you being disingenuous or does this truly elude you? Mas may state whatever he likes, but he doesn't make the rules. Not the first time this has been demonstrated. Try not to take it so hard.

Dazed and Confused will be along any minute stating how this is justice. Let's hold our breath.

 

[Granville57]

I just find it creepy when posts disappear without any explanation. If the post (which seemed free of any objectionable content) had been left in the mod thread (the perfectly appropriate thread for it to be in) Dr Mas wouldn't have posted it in the Armstrong thread.

Still waiting for some official word on the duration of Dr Mas' ban. Or at least the acknowledgement that he was, in fact, banned (unless it was just a forum glitch )

140 characters or less would be fine.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Dazed and Confused will be along any minute stating how this is justice. Let's hold our breath.

Justice on a forum?
Hopefully you can handle the rain when stepping outside.
As with Hog, BPC and others I don't think the doctor should have been banned, but otoh I can see why a mod doesn't want to spend the entire afternoon explaining the actions.

 

[Netserk]

Does anyone really think posters shouldn't be sanctioned if they re-post deleted material???

(If that indeed was what happened, I don't know )

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=818367&postcount=2318

MOD NOTE: It is not allowed to re-post what the mods have edited out. Sorry, that entails an automatic suspension.

Susan

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=819715#post819715

He posted a sentence which was deemed offensive and insulting. It was removed, with that notation. He was not banned for that.

He then reposted the entire sentence in this thread. That is not acceptable. That is what he was banned for.

He was also given only a three-day ban. It could easily have been a much longer ban.

Susan

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On another note: I do think all BPC posts, responses to them and posts about him should be deleted (at least in the Armstrong thread)